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Gardener 1NT overcall: to be or not to be Controlled psyche or not?

#21 User is offline   FrancesHinden 

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Posted 2005-August-12, 06:24

I agree that the problem is with the phrase "controlled psyche" which is a contradiction in terms. As others have said, it's shorthand for "not properly disclosed partnership agreement".
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Posted 2005-August-12, 06:30

Is it a Brown Sticker convention? I know a number of people who use it here; its hardly difficult to counter. Drury seems more like a psychic control to me than the comic nt.
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Posted 2005-August-12, 06:36

The_Hog, on Aug 12 2005, 02:30 PM, said:

Drury seems more like a psychic control to me than the comic nt.

Indeed. Drury may serve as a controlled psyche because you can open 1MA on anything 3rd in hand, knowing that partner can't go bananas if Drury is on the cc. By the way, Drury was banned in Britain for a while. Not sure why they lifted the ban.

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Posted 2005-August-12, 06:50

FrancesHinden, on Aug 12 2005, 02:24 PM, said:

I agree that the problem is with the phrase "controlled psyche" which is a contradiction in terms. As others have said, it's shorthand for "not properly disclosed partnership agreement".

Thanks, Frances, now I understand what it's all about.

As for Drury as a psyche control: yes, if you can open more light hands in 3rd/4th seat because you play Drury, then opps have the right to know.
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Posted 2005-August-12, 20:06

i dont know if its legal or not, but i have done it before usually misleading partner and having to bid and bid my suit till the cows come home :blink:
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Posted 2005-August-12, 23:15

pigpenz, on Aug 12 2005, 09:06 PM, said:

i dont know if its legal or not, but i have done it before usually misleading partner and having to bid and bid my suit till the cows come home ;)

Then it's not a controlled psyche because in the Gardiner structure responder is supposed to bid 2C to find out whether or not the NT bid was comic.
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Posted 2005-August-12, 23:20

Perhaps referring to it as a controlled psyche (as opposed to a 2-way bid with destructive features) is the wrong term. The point is, it can have 2 totally different meanings and can be disruptive to the opps before it's found out when responder to the 1NT bidder checks back with 2Clubs.
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Posted 2005-August-14, 08:22

Walddk, on Aug 12 2005, 09:44 AM, said:

Gardener's 1NT is also known as the "Comic 1NT". It's comic if you get away with it I suppose, and it's tragic if it costs 1100! :)

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I thought that Comic NT was the name for the variant where it is always the weak one-suiter with no strong possiblility.
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