3NT-opening with 6m5M
#1
Posted 2005-August-04, 09:32
I just got an idea: why not open 3NT with a minimum opening, a six-card minor and a five-card major. Those are quite difficult to describe otherwise (you must choose either to open the minor or the major, but both are imperfect). Something like
♠KJxxx ♥J ♦x ♣KQxxxx
Alternatively, you could open those hands with 4m and then use 3NT as Namyats.
Is this a good idea? (Not that I necesarily subscribe to the theory that Gambling 3NT is bad. Actually, I have good experience with it so far allthough I've only encountered it a few times).
#2
Posted 2005-August-04, 10:41
Over 4♣, 4♦ asks for the suit, while 4♥ is pass or correct.
Over 4♦, 4♥ is pass or correct.
Over either 4♣ or 4♦, 4♠ shows slam suitability with the 'other major' ace and the ♣, 5♣ shows slam suitability with both minor aces, and 5♦ shows slam suitability with the ♦A and the 'other major' A.
This scheme requires that the 4♣/♦ bidder always holds the ace of his major, but allows for opener to bid slam with the non-ace suit under control.
While my suspicion (unsupported by any analysis) is that the namyats hands arise more frequently than the moderate 5-6 major-minor hands you wish to show, the other 'strike' against your suggestion is that you may not find a playable contract at the 4-level. Namyats has the advantage that opener has, by definition, a playable 4-level fit in his own hand.
However, they still have to catch you speeding when no fit exists, and your suggested use would be difficult to defend against (double to show a strong balanced defensive hand, overcalls are natural, pass and then double takeout and so on spring to mind, but clearly the bid will wreak havoc on occasion).
Another method I have seen uses 3N as any solid suit: this doubles the frequency compared to gambling and allows for the occasional 3N when the field is in a failing 4Major.
#3
Posted 2005-August-04, 12:39
#4
Posted 2005-August-04, 18:44
Fred's suggestion in the gambling thread (play it as weak with 6-5 or better in the majors) seems better, as you will at least always be able to play in your best fit.
- hrothgar
#5
Posted 2005-August-04, 18:48
Then I found an italian friend who played something similar to what you were suggesting:
3NT= 6♣+5♦
4♣=6♦+5♥
4♦=6♥+5♠
We onlyplayed it once, and it appeared once in 30 boards, we scored a cold top.
#6
Posted 2005-August-04, 18:51
- hrothgar
#7
Posted 2005-August-04, 19:15
The only purpose you should not use 3NT for is to show a solid minor. I agree with Fred when he says:
"If you open 3NT, you should only do it if you do not wish to play there".
Roland
#8
Posted 2005-August-05, 08:37
Hannie, on Aug 5 2005, 12:51 AM, said:
If I recall correctly 6♦+5♥,they wouldn't find their 5-4 ♠ fit with divided strenght and we got +450.
#9
Posted 2005-August-05, 08:40
Fluffy, on Aug 4 2005, 07:48 PM, said:
Then I found an italian friend who played something similar to what you were suggesting:
3NT= 6♣+5♦
4♣=6♦+5♥
4♦=6♥+5♠
We onlyplayed it once, and it appeared once in 30 boards, we scored a cold top.
ONce in 30 boards is quite good going. More frequent than a normal gambling 3NT.
#10
Posted 2005-August-07, 16:30
We have an anecdotal 1 in 30, but there's no reason that this ought to be correct in the long term. On the other hand, my gut feeling for it is that it is going to be more common than a gambling 3NT.
#11
Posted 2005-August-07, 16:43
#12
Posted 2005-August-08, 06:44
If brown stickers are allowed and you want a home for the minor AKQxxxx hands you can play 3♥ as natural or ♣AKQxxxx and 3♠ similar with ♦. Or using the Transfer Preempt principle:
2NT is ♣ or strong ♥ + pointy
3♣ = ♦ or strong ♣ + major
3♦ = ♥ or strong ♦ + black
3♥ = solid ANY suit!
3♠ = ♠
3N = broken 8-card minor
4m = Namyats
4M = worse than 4m

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