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Spingold final - open room - board 11 : 3NT -1 Are they makable ?

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Posted 2005-July-31, 10:54

Spingold Final - Open room - board 11 :

Mr Moss played 3NT -1.

After playing the hearts the way he chose, are they still makable ?.

Oponent in South (Maksymetz) told him that he could have made his contract ducking twice the spades.
Fred said that Moss didn't have to duck twice.

Were they makable or not ?
(commentators didn't discuss the question).

Lin file of the board (to paste and save with .lin extension) :

pn|Maksymetz,Gitelman,Gerstman,Moss|md|1SQT42H3DQ863CQT87,S87HQJ862DAK9CJ63,SKJ65HKT74DJ74C54,SA93HA95DT52CAK92|sv|0|pn|Maksymetz,Gitelman,Gerstman,Moss|
mb|---ppp1Np2Dp2Hp3Nppp|pg||pc|C7|pc|CJ|pc|C4|pc|C2|pg||
pc|H2|pc|H4|pc|HA|pc|H3|pg||
pc|H9|pc|D3|pc|HQ|pc|H7|pg||
pc|H6|pc|HT|pc|H5|pc|D8|pg||
pc|S5|pc|S3|pc|ST|pc|S7|pg||
pc|S2|pc|S8|pc|SK|pc|SA|pg||
pc|CA|pc|C8|pc|C3|pc|C5|pg||
pc|CK|pc|CQ|pc|C6|pc|S6|pg||
pc|D2|pc|D6|pc|DA|pc|D4|pg||
pc|DK|pc|D7|pc|D5|mc|8|

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Posted 2005-July-31, 11:03

I think once moss missed the percentage play for four hearts he was toast
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Posted 2005-July-31, 11:46

inquiry, on Jul 31 2005, 05:03 PM, said:

I think once moss missed the percentage play for four hearts he was toast


The position at trick 5 (NS : 2 EW : 3) :


South ♠2
West ♠8
North ♠K
East ?

Could East make 6 tricks ?

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Posted 2005-July-31, 16:51

I thought that he could make it by ducking one more S and squeezing N... but probably not true: dummy will be squeezed before N.
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Posted 2005-July-31, 20:02

kgr, on Jul 31 2005, 10:51 PM, said:

I thought that he could make it by ducking one more S and squeezing N... but probably not true: dummy will be squeezed before N.

When I asked the question, I had forgotten that Deep Finesse gives the answer (DF in NetBridgeVu.exe) !

Deep Finesse says that Mr Moss can't win.

To ask Deep Finesse I added in the .lin file a "pg||" just after North's play of his King of Spades, then I played the hand with NetBridgeVu.exe, and asked DF when Mr Moss had to play. DF said that both the 9 of Spades and the Ace of Spades loose.

pn|Maksymetz,Gitelman,Gerstman,Moss|md|1SQT42H3DQ863CQT87,S87HQJ862DAK9CJ63,SKJ65HKT74DJ74C54,SA93HA95DT52CAK92|sv|0|pn|Maksymetz,Gitelman,Gerstman,Moss|
mb|---ppp1Np2Dp2Hp3Nppp|pg||pc|C7|pc|CJ|pc|C4|pc|C2|pg||
pc|H2|pc|H4|pc|HA|pc|H3|pg||
pc|H9|pc|D3|pc|HQ|pc|H7|pg||
pc|H6|pc|HT|pc|H5|pc|D8|pg||
pc|S5|pc|S3|pc|ST|pc|S7|pg||
pc|S2|pc|S8|pc|SK|pg||pc|SA|pg||
pc|CA|pc|C8|pc|C3|pc|C5|pg||
pc|CK|pc|CQ|pc|C6|pc|S6|pg||
pc|D2|pc|D6|pc|DA|pc|D4|pg||
pc|DK|pc|D7|pc|D5|mc|8|

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