[cencio]

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[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

#1 replacing the 1H opening bid with 1D (no critique, ..., I rarely use the editor, i.e. I am not throwing stones)
#2 the X is usually a support X, i.e. it is showing 3 spades, given that 2H is not enough, it is NF
..., you could try 4C a splinter agreeing spades, the alternative is giving up on slam and bidding 4S
#3 I am not too fond on the 3D by the bot, I prefer 2S, but from 3rd bidding round onwards, the bot bids get
less and less well defined.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[cencio]

thanks i correct to 1♦

[Kaitlyn S]

cencio, on 2026-September-21, 01:34, said:

thanks i correct to 1♦

When I play instant tournaments with the advanced robot, I can mouse over the bids and see what the robot thinks I have.
I think your 3S bid is forcing. You clearly have 5 spades so if you wanted to invite you would have simply bid 3S last time.
However, it's clear that the robot did not think your bid is forcing. It's possible that you could have moused over your 3S bid and seen that the robot thought it showed less. (It's also possible that you couldn't - it may work differently where you were playing.)

[thepossum]

Bots bid determinstucally according to some program. No value judgement is really appropriate. I know they appear to bid strangely sometimes but I believe it is predictable. Edit. I know they allegedly run simulation

[mw64ahw]

The error is the 2♥ bid which significantly undervalued South's hand.
I would bid 3♣ normally unless the bot. thinks this is natural otherwise 3♥. 4♣ is also possible, but I would tend to do that on a hand with weaker playing strength.

[jillybean]

2♥ is "ok" 3♠ is not. I assume the bot plays support doubles

[P_Marlowe]

jillybean, on 2026-September-23, 10:34, said:

2♥ is "ok" 3♠ is not. I assume the bot plays support doubles

The bod plays suppX, hence why bid 2H hidding the known 6-3 spade fit, you may
end up playing 2H, it is NF.

[mike777]

Really great hand to discuss in depth.
Excellent question and post.

I would start with asking you a couple of questions?

1. What did you think all the bids meant, showed, forcing or not, length, etc?

2. What does the robot say they mean?

[jillybean]

P_Marlowe, on 2026-September-23, 10:44, said:

The bod plays suppX, hence why bid 2H hidding the known 6-3 spade fit, you may
end up playing 2H, it is NF.

Oh, I still play any new suit by responder as 100% forcing. Crude rule perhaps, but it has served me well.

Cencio; are your bridge aspirations to play with bots or humans? If you are learning by playing with bots, beware that bots don't bid like humans.

[P_Marlowe]

jillybean, on 2026-September-24, 05:45, said:

Oh, I still play any new suit by responder as 100% forcing. Crude rule perhaps, but it has served me well.

Cencio; are your bridge aspirations to play with bots or humans? If you are learning by playing with bots, beware that bots don't bid like humans.

2H forcing is fine, ..., I still would prefer to tell p, that we have found a fit.

[jillybean]

P_Marlowe, on 2026-September-24, 06:17, said:

2H forcing is fine, ..., I still would prefer to tell p, that we have found a fit.

Yes of course, this is why I said 2♥ was "ok"