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Posted Yesterday, 11:16

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An interesting hand to pick up near the end of the day.
Strong NT, 2/1.
1 was natural 4+ cards, your 2 was GF (does not deny primary support for diamonds, no inverted minors).
2 is natural and says nothing about extras.

In your preferred 2/1 style (even if the start above is not to your taste), what bids would you now consider as Responder and which do you choose?
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Posted Yesterday, 11:43

3D

granted it helps if 1D shows 5 but understand that is far from standard, smile.
Perhaps with 4S and 4D and balanced, opener should rebid 2nt so now opener does promise 5D and 4S? I think so....
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Posted Yesterday, 11:44

Does 2 show clubs or is it art GF ?
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Posted Yesterday, 12:26

 Cyberyeti, on 2026-June-19, 11:44, said:

Does 2 show clubs or is it art GF ?

It's semi-artificial. Might not be 5+ clubs with some reason, such as diamonds or balanced with no 4cM.
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Posted Yesterday, 13:51

View Postpescetom, on 2026-June-19, 12:26, said:

It's semi-artificial. Might not be 5+ clubs with some reason, such as diamonds or balanced with no 4cM.


In that case 3 and see if pd bids 3 which I can raise
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Posted Yesterday, 13:53

Does 2S promise an unbalanced hand (hence either 5 diamonds or some 4441)?
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Posted Yesterday, 14:04

Hi,

does 2S at least show 5+ diamonds?
I guess with 4H and 4S, you would bid 2H, and with a bal. hand you
would either open or rebid NT.
Assuming we have a diamond fit, I show the fit.

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Marlowe
With kind regards
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Posted Yesterday, 14:17

3 and here’s hoping we don’t go rusty waiting for the next bid.
“It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it is because we do not dare that they are difficult.”
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Posted Yesterday, 14:55

When I used to play 2/1, the (local) standard was that 2 was game forcing and hands with 5+ always rebid 2, so 2 would be 4144/4243/4342 (denying five diamonds or four hearts). This being the case, I'd rebid 3 (where I know we have a fit) and see what partner does.
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Posted Today, 06:21

 akwoo, on 2026-June-19, 13:53, said:

Does 2S promise an unbalanced hand (hence either 5 diamonds or some 4441)?

Yes, it does.
So either 5+ diamonds or 4=1=4=4.
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Posted Today, 06:26

 jillybean, on 2026-June-19, 14:17, said:

and here’s hoping we don’t go rusty waiting for the next bid.

Yes sorry but I had a game to run and am breaking in a new phone too :)
Now we have a club meeting to approve moving to a better location (after 25 years), hope everyone shows up despite the heat.
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Posted Today, 07:21

 pescetom, on 2026-June-20, 06:21, said:

Yes, it does.
So either 5+ diamonds or 4=1=4=4.



If you open one club with 4=1=4=4 it alleviates that concern.


Good luck with your meeting.

At our local club we have an unusual situation starting in about 6 months.
For over 20 years we took over a one story park district building to play bridge. We rent it. It is right next to a park and school.
The school was for young kids but now is being upgraded to a middle grade school.
In the lease the park district had the right to use part of the building as an after school site for students, however they never did. Now they want to start.

Not sure how this will be resolved.
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