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Posted 2025-December-11, 18:48

We refuse to play party bridge!
Please can someone tell me how I can run a duplicate game with 2 tables, 21 or 24 boards? (edited)
Thanks
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Posted 2025-December-12, 10:12

Individual: 7 rounds of 3 is 21.
Pair: can play it top = 1 if you want. ACBL only allows masterpoints if run as a "Home Style Pairs" game, scored IMPs with 3 rounds of (7, 8). Either way, the movement is "simply":
  • N-S at table 1 are stationary.
  • Before scoring, the N-S pair at 2 moves to E-W, and the E-W pair that just played at table 1 sits N-S 2.
  • The next match is "as the players sit".
  • Repeat for round 3.

In all cases, boards are shared between each table every round.
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Posted 2025-December-12, 17:40

thank you
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Posted 2025-December-15, 10:28

Just play a team match with IMP or Board-a-Match scoring.

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Posted 2025-December-16, 05:59

View Postbarmar, on 2025-December-15, 10:28, said:

Just play a team match with IMP or Board-a-Match scoring.

Yes, I like that approach however I was out voted 7-1
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Posted 2025-December-16, 09:40

If "Home Style Pairs" is considered party bridge, then please feel free to ignore this...

In ACBLscore, you can set up a game they call "home style pairs." In this game, 3 team matches are played, with each partnership having every other partnership as its teammates once, and as its table opponents once. You can run it as IMPs win/loss, IMPs converted to VPs, or BAM scoring.
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Posted 2025-December-16, 09:49

View Postcrazy4hoop, on 2025-December-16, 09:40, said:

If "Home Style Pairs" is considered party bridge, then please feel free to ignore this...

In ACBLscore, you can set up a game they call "home style pairs." In this game, 3 team matches are played, with each partnership having every other partnership as its teammates once, and as its table opponents once. You can run it as IMPs win/loss, IMPs converted to VPs, or BAM scoring.

This sounds fine, thanks. We simply want to make sure we are playing duplicate, not shuffle, deal, play every hand.
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Posted 2025-December-16, 09:54

 jillybean, on 2025-December-16, 09:49, said:

This sounds fine, thanks. We simply want to make sure we are playing duplicate, not shuffle, deal, play every hand.

Mycroft already mentioned the same solution.
It sounds fun to play BAM for once.
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Posted 2025-December-16, 19:30

I prefer "home style pairs" to straight teams, especially if "party" is desired.

Three matches, play with and against every other pair.

If there's one clear inferior player/pair, "combine into teams and play 20 boards" could lead to some very personal fallout - of the "why did you want to play with them instead of us, and force us to play with the [-]s?" variety.
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Posted 2025-December-16, 19:44

Exactly :)
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Posted Yesterday, 10:03

And I agree with Pescetom - if you're not paying ACBL Masterpoints, and people are into it, scoring BAM could also be fun.

Or "the only way people know how to play", given the death of IMP-scored events outside of regionals and Sundays.
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Posted Yesterday, 10:19

For us it would be an absolute novelty. We do play occasional team events at IMPs (and I still hope to restore the weekly cross-IMP pairs tournament) but never get a chance to try BAM.

But I get your point that actual bidding and play decisions of BAM are probably much closer to the MP they all know and love. Not many club players like to move outside of their comfort zone.
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