[Walddk]

Scoring: IMP

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You decide, somewhat aggressively, to open 1♦ 1st in hand at IMPs, and the auction proceeds (no interference):

1♦ - 1♥
2♦ - 2♠ 1)
3♥ - 3♠ 2)
4♥ - 5♥
?

1) Can be 3 cards.
2) Cue bid.

What is going on? Why didn't responder use Roman Keycard (1430)? What do you do now and why? Pass, 6♥ or perhaps 6♦?

Roland

[pbleighton]

Pass. Pd has made some sort of amorphous (to me) slam try, and I have no more than I promised.

Realistically, 5H probabably means something specific to pd, but:
1) I don't know what it is (raise to slam with good trump support is the only thing I can think of), and
2) My hand stinks.


Peter

[Rebound]

I'm getting the difinite impression partner needs help in the trump suit, i.e. A or K of ♥ at least so I pass.

[the hog]

Pass. Partner is missing a C control.

[Winstonm]

Pass. Surely this is asking specifically about a club control.

[Double !]

lol

is it possible that partner is 5-6 in majors, something like 5-6-0-2?

I am passing 5H. So, shoot me! I don't have a club control, and I suspect P will at least appreciate my 2 major suit queens. I keep telling people that I am a bidding dinosaur, but when P bids one suit, and then bids and rebids another suit (usually), I play P for 6-5 (if not 6-6) even though you said that 2S & 3S were cue bids. Whatever P is looking for, I don't have it.

[Walddk]

Double !, on Jul 9 2005, 06:51 AM, said:

.... even though you said that 2S & 3S were cue bids.

I didn't say that. 3♠ is a cue bid, yes, but 2♠ is (semi)natural. A bid without risk, since responder knows that opener doesn't have 4 spades.

Roland

[HeartA]

The_Hog, on Jul 8 2005, 10:31 PM, said:

Pass. Partner is missing a C control.

That's my thought, too.

[luis]

I think he is void in diamonds.
I pass, I probably don't have any single useful card.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

I agree with luis, Pass.

Looking at auction, opener denied a club control,
I assume the partnership plays serious 3NT,
i.e. partner cant ask about a club control, since I
denied one already.
He will have a void, in diamond, since he did not
use 4NT.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[cherdano]

I bid 4♥ and hope it makes.

[pclayton]

Pass. Roland are we playing wjs or sjs? Not that it matters much here, but we can tell if pard has a 3-7-0-3 or a 4-6-0-3 etc..

There are 3 clues that pard is worried about clubs 1) the 5H call instead of 4N, 2) the 3S cue which was fishing for the AC (else why not a direct 4N), 3) the lack of a 5C cue which is what he should bid if he held a diamond void, a club control and was fishing for something else like trumps or another spade card.

[Double !]

Walddk, on Jul 9 2005, 01:48 AM, said:

Double !, on Jul 9 2005, 06:51 AM, said:

.... even though you said that 2S & 3S were cue bids.

I didn't say that. 3♠ is a cue bid, yes, but 2♠ is (semi)natural. A bid without risk, since responder knows that opener doesn't have 4 spades.

Roland

Roland
My sincerest apologies.
My eyes are very tired after a very long school year. I mis-read what you had written.
Yes. 3S is a free bid, but why can it not show 5-bagger? Opener denied 4 spades but Kx (or, in this case, Qx) could be a pretty good holding opposite a 5-bagger. Opener could conceivably taken a false preference to 3-H over 2-S. Whatever, I still regard 3S as asking opener if he/she has anything more to say? I guess a case could be made for rebidding 4D/3S to imply concentration of honors/ potential source of tricks. If I knew the right answer,......well, I await the wisdom of those more knowledgable than me.


Thanx for your contributions
DHL

[bearmum]

Walddk, on Jul 9 2005, 02:32 PM, said:

Dealer: South Vul: None Scoring: IMP

♠ Q6 ♥ Q72 ♦ KQJ984 ♣ 75

You decide, somewhat aggressively, to open 1♦ 1st in hand at IMPs, and the auction proceeds (no interference):

1♦ - 1♥
2♦ - 2♠ 1)
3♥ - 3♠ 2)
4♥ - 5♥
?

1) Can be 3 cards.
2) Cue bid.

What is going on? Why didn't responder use Roman Keycard (1430)? What do you do now and why? Pass, 6♥ or perhaps 6♦?

Roland

I Pass ( I presume P is looking for slam BUT my hand is minimum and I have nothing more to show )

[han]

Also 4♥ for me!

[Fluffy]

5♥ is not forcing for sure, so I better pass when I finally have the option .

If I have to bet, I bet forpartner having 0733 with Qxx or less in ♣.

[Walddk]

Walddk, on Jul 9 2005, 03:32 AM, said:

Dealer: South Vul: None Scoring: IMP

♠ Q6 ♥ Q72 ♦ KQJ984 ♣ 75

You decide, somewhat aggressively, to open 1♦ 1st in hand at IMPs, and the auction proceeds (no interference):

1♦ - 1♥
2♦ - 2♠ 1)
3♥ - 3♠ 2)
4♥ - 5♥
?

1) Can be 3 cards.
2) Cue bid.

What is going on? Why didn't responder use Roman Keycard (1430)? What do you do now and why? Pass, 6♥ or perhaps 6♦?

Roland

The deal is from the ongoing Nordic Championships in Denmark, and the Norwegian responder in the North seat bid 5♥ on:

♠ A74
♥ KJ865
♦ A5
♣ AK2

After a huddle for at least 5 minutes. I can understand his reasoning. He feared (rightly) that opener had no key card (5♦ playing 1430), and then there was no room to ask for ♥Q.

Was that too subtle or was it good thinking?

His brother passed 5♥ after a long think. The winning bid would have been 6♦, because West can't attack spades. At the other table the Swedes bid 6♥ and made it. It wasn't all that easy for East to lead a spade from 10xxxx, holding J109 in clubs.

At that table, responder had also cue bid spades.

Roland

[mike777]

Good grief responder has a giant hand and never outright supported D and took control of the hand...why make bridge so difficult? This hand should be a breeze to reach 6d...whether it makes or not is another matter.

[cherdano]

One problem is that usually 5♥ asks for control in the unbid suit when there is exactly one. Another is that if it does not ask for that, it usually asks to bid slam with 2 out of top 3 trump honors. And a 3rd problem is that if it doesn't ask for either of those, it might just be seen as an invitation based on general values. Which may be a little pessimistic with a 19-count facing a supposed opener and a double fit.

Arend

[coyot]

I would imagine my partner holding something like
AKx-Axxxxxxx-void-Kx.

The diamond void effectively denies him RKCB - any my bidding denies him the club cuebid. Based on bidding and my hand only:

Anyway, I'd pass 5♥ without much thinking because the only sensible explanation of this bid would be "partner, I need some trump honors and have no way of asking about them."

If he wants to play in diamonds (and cannot use RKCB with a small club doubleton), he can bid 5♦ instead of 5♥ - I will figure out that he has 3-5-3-2 and hopes to find a club stopper in my hand.

Seeing the actual hand of responder, I would prefer 5♣ bid after 4♥. I would expect partner to realize that since I am pushing to slam against two diamond bids, I have some use for diamond values - and I have shown stoppers in both black suits... He then sees working diamonds and heart queen and will hopefully bid 6.