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Later that evening Another extreme declarer problem

#1 User is offline   Evies Dad 

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Posted 2023-January-13, 05:26

Later the evening we reached 5C.
I think there are more divergent lines to have to consider on this hand.


West leads QS
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Posted 2023-January-13, 08:37

Will try for a cross ruff. SA, S ruff, HA, H ruff, S ruff, H ruff, DA, S ruff, DK, S ruff and AC would be 11 tricks. Then exhale.
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Posted 2023-January-14, 02:19

Douglas' line seems best - except for cashing A early (retaining it may help if you switch to some other line).

So: ruff, A, ruff and only now (if nothing unusual has happened) cash A and follow Douglas' line.

You need West to have started with 2 or 3 diamonds and 3 or 4 hearts. The alternative line of using the diamond entries first needs West to have started with exactly 3 hearts and 2, 3 or 4 diamonds.

If West plays K on the second round, you have to reconsider. Probably best then to run 10 at trick 4 and later give up a trick to J. This will succeed if clubs are 3-2 (and you guess right if West started with KJ or Jx). You may play on similar lines if West plays J on the second round but it's less clear in that case.

Note: West might trick you by playing K at trick 3 from KJxx, but I am willing to pay off to that.

If West plays both honors to the first two heart tricks, you should probably come to hand with a club to the ace and run heart winners through West.
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Posted 2023-January-16, 03:28

On the AH at trick 3 West does play the King - i.e. a singleton.
What you do after that will depend on what West does to your next low heart.

That is actually my main question - is it always better to cash the AH the first time you lead the suit - or ruff a low one first ?
The closest anyone got to 11 tricks was 10 tricks when they ruffed a small heart covered by the aforementioned King.
Now they don't ever score the AH.
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Posted 2023-January-24, 13:15

View PostEvies Dad, on 2023-January-16, 03:28, said:

On the AH at trick 3 West does play the King - i.e. a singleton.
What you do after that will depend on what West does to your next low heart.

That is actually my main question - is it always better to cash the AH the first time you lead the suit - or ruff a low one first ?
The closest anyone got to 11 tricks was 10 tricks when they ruffed a small heart covered by the aforementioned King.
Now they don't ever score the AH.


When establishing a suit there is sometimes a case for holding back top cards to avoid them being ruffed, and to make it less likely that you will suffer an over-ruff. But if trying for a cross-ruff, grab them first.
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