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#1 User is offline   sceptic 

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Posted 2005-June-25, 13:42


Scoring: IMP


West North East South

 -     -     Pass  Pass
 Pass  Pass  

who will score well here and why ?
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Posted 2005-June-25, 15:26

Well, E/W have bid like muppets, but may have got lucky due to the 4-0 trump break.Depends on their methods I suppose. I can stop in 2S on those cards and make it
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Posted 2005-June-25, 16:40

I think E/W will score well here, because they stopped before 3♠ :D.
Both of them could have opened, But downgraded the hands.

I don't think it's wise, but i guess this time it payed off.
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Posted 2005-June-25, 19:09

Easts's pass is ridiculous. I would open the Sth hand with a 2 suited opening if that was available. I can understand West's pass facing a passed hand
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Posted 2005-June-25, 21:28

with east i open 1nt.. west bids 2c invitational puppet, east 2s and west should pass, since the 2s bid says "i decline an invitation"
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Posted 2005-June-25, 23:59

Is "who will score well here?" really an issue?
Advise against emphasizing "results bridge" or before long you will start looking for and seeing horrible breaks behind every rock and bidding box.
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Posted 2005-June-26, 02:59

The play here in a N/S diamond contract is interesting - the best lead is the Ace and a small diamond. South must win this in hand and start on hearts to come to many tricks. Due to the entry problems in the South hand, West should rise with the Ace of hearts - to counter this, South should play the heart King under the Ace. A club switch takes out South's club entry. When South now leads a second heart to the Jack, East must duck. Now all South can muster is a Spade ruff.

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Posted 2005-June-26, 03:40

The East hand is a clear 1♠ opener - passing opening hands with 5 spades is losing bridge - however once East passed it is unsurprising what actually happened.

Many South's would now bid Michaels 2♥, allowing West to make an invitational 3♥ and the auction will subside at 3♠.

If South passes then I expect West to make an invitational limit raise (whatever that is in their system).

So I expect all roads to lead to 3♠, however would not be surprised to hear that some were in 4♠. Unfortunate on this layout.

Scoring well, as I expect East-West did on this hand, is possible on a single hand against any opponents. However bidding and playing well is necessary to score well in a longer competition!

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Posted 2005-June-27, 05:19

I'm forcing to game with the West hand if East opens 1♠ unless pard opens very light. Milton undervalues aces for suit play and the fourth trump could be useful.
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Posted 2005-June-27, 05:27

Passing east's hand is coming from another world ! :)

No more comment ! :)

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Posted 2005-June-27, 06:17

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I'm forcing to game with the West hand if East opens 1♠ unless pard opens very light. Milton undervalues aces for suit play and the fourth trump could be useful.


If only your declarer play justified your agressive bidding technique......
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Posted 2005-June-27, 08:41

mr1303, on Jun 27 2005, 01:17 PM, said:

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I'm forcing to game with the West hand if East opens 1♠ unless pard opens very light. Milton undervalues aces for suit play and the fourth trump could be useful.


If only your declarer play justified your agressive bidding technique......

I think your play must justify my GF and mine your limit raise Mark ;)
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Posted 2005-June-27, 11:55

I'd be in 3♠ with my regular p.

1♠ - 2NT (1)
3♣ (2) - 3♠

(1) Raise to 3 or better
(2) minimum hand


I can't imagine being in 4♠. Neither hand has any shape.
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Posted 2005-June-27, 13:47

I'm in 2S

1S 2H(first/2nd seat drury)
2S (min) Pass

With 4 trumps and some shape we can go on to the 3 level, but this doesn't cut it.
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Posted 2005-June-27, 13:57

I would open the 4 hands, this is quite funny.
EW should get a very good score.
Having said that I would grade East pass as "highly strange" and take a look at what kind of hands this east player regularly opens or passes. Maybe it's just his style maybe he knew that opening 1♠ would lead him to a bad result in spades....
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Posted 2005-June-27, 14:41

mr1303, on Jun 27 2005, 03:47 PM, said:

I'm in 2S

1S 2H(first/2nd seat drury)
2S (min) Pass

With 4 trumps and some shape we can go on to the 3 level, but this doesn't cut it.

Yes, first and second seat drury might get you to exaclty 2♠ after East opens 1♠? The question is how much does WEST evaluate his fit (4Cards, 5 controls) and a ruffing value. At imps, this hand is clealry too good for 1st/2nd seat drury (odd you you 2H for this). I would start with a limit raise or better bid, and further more, I would force to game when partner reject. At matchpoints, there is some arguement for using normal 1st/2nd hand drury an respecting partners decision. I think, however I would stongly invite game at mp, and force to game at imps if partner opened 1♠. The mirror images really hurt this hand.
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