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#1 User is offline   Free 

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Posted 2005-June-21, 01:31

You end up in 6♠ played by south. West leads ♠8. Do you see any chance of making this contract?


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Posted 2005-June-21, 01:46

It looks hopeless, but it can be made.

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Nice hand.
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Posted 2005-June-21, 01:48

I'll have a go.
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Posted 2005-June-21, 01:52

East can counter by pitching a club instead on the last heart...
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Posted 2005-June-21, 01:55

That was my thought as well. While I was writing, I found that East could pitch ♣ as well.
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Posted 2005-June-21, 01:58

Not just any club, the J or 10 in particular. Else Ace and a low club forks the defense. But East can unblock his high clubs for West to win.
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Posted 2005-June-21, 02:20

Echognome, on Jun 21 2005, 02:58 AM, said:

Not just any club, the J or 10 in particular. Else Ace and a low club forks the defense.  But East can unblock his high clubs for West to win.

Any club would do. At second club (Q or 3), West plays ♣K and continues 3rd ♣ for East to (over) ruff.

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You are right. If East pitches C8, South could cash 3rd trump and then CA and small C...
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Posted 2005-June-21, 08:09

Nicec hand, and nice chicken
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Posted 2005-June-21, 08:33

You can play for a pseudo squeeze:

play 3 rounds of trumps
play 3 rounds of hearts
then another round of trumps, now this may be the layout:


If you play a 5th round of trumps, west may think you have the following hand:

♠xx
♥-
♦xx
♣AJ

If he discards a ♣, then you can drop the ♣K.
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Posted 2005-June-21, 08:39

PMetsch, on Jun 21 2005, 09:33 AM, said:

You can play for a pseudo squeeze:

♠xx
♥-
♦xx
♣AJ

If he discards a ♣, then you can drop the ♣K.

Forget it, with that hand you have 12 tricks
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Posted 2005-June-22, 10:16

Free, on Jun 21 2005, 08:31 AM, said:

Do you see any chance of making this contract?

No :) Is there a solution?
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Posted 2005-June-22, 10:24

Edit: It's Free's problem so I'll let him tell the answer.
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Posted 2005-June-22, 10:25

There's no double dummy solution, only way is a mistake from opponents. Best line is to play low ♠ in trick 2. If East overtakes you make your contract. If he doesn't, go to plan B by playing the ♥s and discarding a ♣. But if East is still awake, he'll still get you down.

I had a bonus question, but you guys already saw that if you swap ♣8 and ♣9, it's cold :)
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