[shanbari]

Dealer: East Vul: N/S Scoring: IMP

♠ ♥ xxx ♦ QJ8xx ♣ KTxxx

N E S W ---2C P 2D 3H 3S ? RHO opened strong 2C, and 2D is normal waiting bid. you partner jump in 3H, what do you do after RHO's 3S,

SHAN

[Free]

Pass

[joker_gib]

What is 3♥ ? 8 tricks, 9 tricks ?

I suppose it is more based on tricks than on HCP ?

What would be 2♥ ?

[shanbari]

joker_gib, on Jun 9 2005, 09:25 AM, said:

What is 3♥ ? 8 tricks, 9 tricks ?

I suppose it is more based on tricks than on HCP ?

What would be 2♥ ?

there's a lot to say about 3H, but it's not simple as opening 3H. you are in the position to figure it out. partner is certainly not novice, he knows what he should do.



SHAN

[inquiry]

Whoops... post deleted since I misread the auction....

[mr1303]

AS I understand it, partner bid 3H and LHO bid 3S (presumably showing a good hand, since he passed first time). In which case 3H is setting trumps, so I'll cue 4C (my cheapest control)

[PriorKnowledge]

oops - deleting

This post has been edited by PriorKnowledge: 2005-June-09, 13:40

[Fluffy]

Wow I missread it too, was wondering why didn't I bid 2NT .

4♦ to me.

[shanbari]

bidding goes:

RHO started the 2c bid, i passed, and LHO bid 2D, partner jump in 3H,

RHO continued 3S, what now with my hand ?

SHAN

[Fluffy]

Ahhh those evil Ben and Justin misslead me, I had read it right at first.

Pass, and I would had overcalled 2NT.

[civill]

Pass,3 level is enough for us.

[joker_gib]

I misread too !

4♥ seems OK : partner must have a good suit and if he has a little something in one minor, we have a play or we will not go down too much.

Alain

[shanbari]

Scoring: IMP

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as i see, some choose 4h, some 4D, or pass...
whatever you choose, bidding is certainly not over yet due to the vulnerability, we are red against White. most of time opps would outbid our 4h.


i am south holding above hand.
N E S W
- 2C P 2D
3H 3S 4x 4S
P P ?

here comes the second question, do you still bid on or not ?
or you may feel that you want to bid enough in first place to avoid the second decision?


(i choosed 4H bid at table, then i face the second bidding issue again as i expected.)

[han]

If you bid 4H, never bid 5H

If you would like to bid 5H in this situation, bid it directly (not such a bad idea I think).

[P_Marlowe]

4H is clear cut.

I have one sure trick for partner, the spade ruff, and there
is still some additional money on the bank, to compensate
any possible friskiness of partners 3H bid.

If 4S comes back to me, I pass.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[awm]

I'd bid 4♠ over 3♠. I've seen a few too many "psychic" 2♣ openers, on hands like:

AKQJxxxxx
x
x
xx

I'd expect opener to have something like this, or maybe with one outside card. We could easily be on for 5♥ or even 6♥ on this auction, but it's very difficult to bid constructively over the strong 2♣ opening. Even if partner's just preempting, partner shouldn't be messing around at these colors. I have a void, three card support, and a few cards that partner may not be suspecting. It wouldn't surprise me at all for us to make 5♥.

[bridge2k]

Bid 4H and Pass later.

Bidding 4H is not preempt as ops already bid out spade. Beside, we are in red so I should be seriously thinking that 4H could be played, either by my shape or value or both.

Since I've already passed the above information, I have no more to talk with this hand.

I am void in spade so pd has more spade so he should take more responsibilty to judge this hand. He knew more than you in the table and he chose pass. So, repect his decision, whatever right or wrong.