[MickyB]

Jlall, on Jun 21 2005, 06:16 PM, said:

Shocking, I overcalled 2S and partner ended up Xing them, I couldn't have imagined that...

When you overcall at the 2 level with ZERO defense thats the kind of thing that happens. If you pass and bid later it shows this kind of hand.

There may not be a later.

What hand do you expect for pulling the double of 3♦ to 3♠?

[DrTodd13]

After 2♠, what is partner going to do if my LHO makes the only reasonable call which is pass. What is he trying to accomplish with 3♦? Anyway, it seems like north is going to be pretty aggresive after a 2S overcall. On a good day you might get him to stop in 3♠ but he might push to 3N which you'll then have to correct to 4♠, -1. That being said, I'm split right down the middle on this one. I've tried hanging out with this sort of hand and backing in once they've reached game and even though the odds dictated partner should have a modicum of support I always seem to get singletons and voids in dummy. Hanging out puts no pressure on them. Conversely, bidding immediately can distort the hand and also lead to problems.

[inquiry]

DrTodd13, on Jun 21 2005, 02:50 PM, said:

but he might push to 3N which you'll then have to correct to 4♠, -1.

♣AKQ, ♣ ruff, ♠A, down two... In spades by south, this defense is automatic.

[Fluffy]

Jlall, on Jun 21 2005, 07:03 PM, said:

I would pull a X of 3D with a very distributional NORMAL overcall, such as AQxxxxx xxx --- KQx

I am not fully sure, but maybe I would pass with this as well :-P

[Winstonm]

Jlall, on Jun 21 2005, 12:16 PM, said:

Shocking, I overcalled 2S and partner ended up Xing them, I couldn't have imagined that...

When you overcall at the 2 level with ZERO defense thats the kind of thing that happens. If you pass and bid later it shows this kind of hand.

We have to stop agreeing so much; you know how people will talk.

[DrTodd13]

inquiry, on Jun 21 2005, 11:00 AM, said:

DrTodd13, on Jun 21 2005, 02:50 PM, said:

but he might push to 3N which you'll then have to correct to 4♠, -1.

♣AKQ, ♣ ruff, ♠A, down two... In spades by south, this defense is automatic.

I lost interest in the hand once I saw down 1. So, this is even worse, you can't even safely retreat to 3♠.

[whereagles]

Pass. It is usual practice to pass preempts when you have a preemptive hand yourself. If you think about it, you'll realize you'll have a 2nd chance to bid if the hand DOES belong to your side.