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Camrose Conundrum 3

#1 User is online   lamford 

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Posted 2022-January-09, 18:53



Another lost opportunity for Wales v England in the Camrose.

As Sinatra sang:

We're drinkin', my friend
To the end of a brief episode
Make it one for my baby
And one more for the road

Do you add one for the road?

Your methods are 4-card majors, Weak no-trump, Double take out, implying four spades. Others on request.
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Posted 2022-January-09, 19:47

Conundrums 1, 2 and 3:

You have left out a huge amount of information that would have been available to us at the table.
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Posted 2022-January-09, 20:30

I do. 6S for me. I’d have bid the same way with Qxxx Qxx KQx Qxx and this is better…imagine AKxxx AKxxxx x x

Of course at the table I’d know partner’s style with modest 5=6 hands. If he’d distort with 1S, then slam is even better…..note that I don’t think 5S should usually bid on a 4 card suit, which is an arguable point, I’m sure. AKJx AKJxxx xx x is, I suppose, possible and a diamond lead may well beat us since spades will be 4-1 quite often given the 4C call.

So I bid slam.

Note that some opps may bid 7C if we bid slam in tempo…if we dither and telegraph that we’re not sure, they’ll pass. Btw, we have to avoid dithering when we have a clear bid. I think this is a dithering hand, fwiw, but I’d hope I bid 6S in tempo.
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Posted 2022-January-10, 08:04

View Postmikeh, on 2022-January-09, 20:30, said:

So I bid slam.

Note that some opps may bid 7C if we bid slam in tempo…if we dither and telegraph that we’re not sure, they’ll pass. Btw, we have to avoid dithering when we have a clear bid. I think this is a dithering hand, fwiw, but I’d hope I bid 6S in tempo.

Very good second point, although I suspect that if the pre-emptor has a major suit king, he will not save, and his partner never will. After all he was the Titanic Townsend.

Partner will open 5-6-?-? with 1H, I think. Maybe not KJTxx KJTxxx Kx none. When I get that I will think again. Yes 5S must be a 5-bagger as you have not guaranteed four spades.
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Posted 2022-January-10, 11:52

Looks like an instant pass to me.
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Posted 2022-January-10, 12:51

What would partner's double of 5C have been?
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Posted 2022-January-10, 17:17

View Postakwoo, on 2022-January-10, 12:51, said:

What would partner's double of 5C have been?

Surely penalties. And pass would be forcing I think at these colours.
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Posted 2022-January-10, 17:38

P should have bid 6 or even 6 if what you have, which is at the minimum level for your call, would have been enough for a slam.
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Posted 2022-January-10, 21:54

View Postlamford, on 2022-January-10, 17:17, said:

Surely penalties. And pass would be forcing I think at these colours.


In that case I pass. Partner could have pass-and-pulled if they really wanted to invite slam.
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Posted 2022-January-11, 09:22

View Postakwoo, on 2022-January-10, 21:54, said:

In that case I pass. Partner could have pass-and-pulled if they really wanted to invite slam.

Partner has AKxxx AJTxxx xx none and slam is on the heart hook, but only if they lead a diamond. 7S makes but the pair in 7H-1 got egg on their face.
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