[Blofeld]

Scoring: MP

1♥ (3♣) 3♠ (P) ?
Playing Acol, and 3♠ is forcing.
Opponents intermediate ; LHO slightly aggressive, RHO more conservative.

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I think I may have made a bad decision. What do people think of the 3NT and 4♦ bids?

[inquiry]

3NT is a matchpoint kind of bid. Stopper? Who needs a stopper. In the long run, this might work out ok, but it is not for me. Pass, is of course, also eliminated. When you discard the obvious, whatever esle that is left, must be right. 4♦ - unimaginative, dull, but so be it....

[mike777]

4d

This means p is often forced to bid 3nt with 5 spades and a club stopper. Not easy.

[luke warm]

i'm really not capable of figuring out how many times out of 100 a 3nt bid works.. it's appealing, but my hand looks better suited for suit play... guess i'll go 4♦ also

[Blofeld]

mike: presumably with five spades and a club stopper partner could try a double, and then pull 3♦/3♥ to 3NT?

[Double !]

A wise sage once said to me, "don't make unusual bids that partner can criticize."

Actually it was my older brother (an extremely good player) who also threatened to kick me butt at the time.
But, the idea of trying to not make a bid that is so inconsistent with your hand is a good guiding principle.
lololol, That was 30+ years ago. He's older but I'm bigger.

[bearmum]

Blofeld, on Jun 14 2005, 11:47 AM, said:

Dealer: South Vul: N/S Scoring: MP

♠ 7 ♥ KJT54 ♦ KQJ94 ♣ J4

1♥ (3♣) 3♠ (P) ? Playing Acol, and 3♠ is forcing. Opponents intermediate ; LHO slightly aggressive, RHO more conservative.

I think I may have made a bad decision. What do people think of the 3NT and 4♦ bids?

4♦ because
1 U don't have even a partial stopper in ♣ so prefer not to bid 3NT
2 U don't have a rebiddable ♥ suit
3 U don't have ♠ support
4 U are NOT allowed to pass a forcing bid

[joker_gib]

Jlall, on Jun 14 2005, 03:34 AM, said:

4D for me, I just bid my hand. Usually works well. Pard would be careful of endplaying me with a 3S bid anyways if his hand was more NT oriented.

4D and I agree with Justin !

If his hand is NT oriented, partner has to bid NT knowing there is no more room !

Alain

[P_Marlowe]

4D.

Hard, feels wrong, but I will follow ben, who cites Sherlock Holmes,
if you eliminate the impossible, whats left has to be the thing, even
if it is terrible.

With kind regards
Marlowe

PS: I would have liked to write "change system", but I rembered in time,
my partnership changed the system several weeks ago, making 3S forcing ...

[Walddk]

4♦, no other option. Bidding 3NT is gambling, and that's a completely different ballgame. I have hearts and diamonds, so when my partner forces me to bid again, I will show him my second suit.

If 3NT is the spot, responder should have thought a litle longer before he bid 3♠.

Roland

[mr1303]

4D. People might well be hesitant to open 3C with a solid suit, but to overcall 3C people wouldn't have any problems with it at all. Hence the chances of them cashing the top 6/7 club tricks is a genuine danger.

[Walddk]

The problem would have been tougher with

♠72
♥AQT54
♦KQJ9
♣J4

Now I think it's better to bid 4♠ than 4♦. Not ideal with two small admittedly, but the best there is in my opinion.

Roland

[Blofeld]

As I imagine most of you have guessed, I chanced a 3nt bid, which didn't work out very well.

On the actual hand, partner had:
♠KQJ943
♥A63
♦AT7
♣7
with which I maintained that he should have taken some action over 3nt (not that it excuses the 3nt bid). Is that reasonable?

For the record, LHO had ♣AKTxxx and RHO had ♣Qxxx (and the ♠A).

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

your partner should probably bid 4S over 3NT,
because his spades are not running.
To make 3NT you will need the spades, i.e. if
you have only one stopper in club and not the Ace
of spades, 3NT will probably go down, so yes he
should have bid 4S, but this is no excuse for
the 3NT.

Lead partner to a deep hole and be not surprised,
if he partner falls for it, and jumbs head over heels
into the hole.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[JSilver]

I think you both took a position. I wouldn't bid 3NT with your hand, nor would I pass it with your partner's. There's no reason for him to think 3NT, even if it makes, will score more matchpoints than a ♥ contract. A ♥ slam is not out of the question if you have one of the black aces.

[Al_U_Card]

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I maintained that he should have taken some action over 3nt

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yes passing 3N is really absurd

Alert! Transfer (of fault). As far as pard knows, you have made the best bid you can so he respects your judgement..........poor deluded child.....lol. Better bids make better post-mortems at least.

[Al_U_Card]

Hey, no problem here, 3S shows an opening bid (since it is forcing that means at least 3NT) and pard can expect no C help so a 3NT bid would be void or stiff S with a DOUBLE stop in C. The sensible and accurate bid of 4D to show his actual hand always gets you to the H game, so ....why set a trap for pard when he is looking for help from you.....