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2 club opener the idiot passes opinions please

#161 User is offline   jjbrr 

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Posted 2010-August-13, 16:12

Hello, 2005
OK
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Posted 2010-August-13, 16:21

new record?
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Posted 2010-August-13, 16:27

And I still remembered this thread! (Including Frances' odd suggestion to pass a 13 count opposite a strong NT in order to swing...)
"Are you saying that LTC merits a more respectful dismissal?"
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Posted 2010-August-15, 13:19

Playing against GIBs, I opened 1♣ in first seat and it went:
1♣-pass-1♦-dbl
1♥-pass-1♠-2♣
pass-?
GIB has x-Qx-Jxxx-Txxxxx
and passes his partner's cuebid! The robot's partner had a singleton club.
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Posted 2010-August-15, 17:16

I also remembered there was someone who passed 2♣ and it trned out well, but didn't remember it was wayne who did it.


Josh can you explain us how did you come back to this thread and why did you reopen it?
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Posted 2010-August-16, 07:28

Wow hilarious necro. How did such an lol thread get to 12 pages!
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Posted 2010-August-16, 16:32

Fluffy, on Aug 15 2010, 06:16 PM, said:

I also remembered there was someone who passed 2♣ and it trned out well, but didn't remember it was wayne who did it.


Josh can you explain us how did you come back to this thread and why did you reopen it?

How was someone else linked to it, why was to drive you insane.
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Posted 2010-August-16, 17:00

I thought about this thread yesterday with Jx,xxx,xx,Jxxxxx but I dutifully responded and gave a 2nd negative and passed after 2♣-2♦-2♠-3♣-4♥ and watched my partner try to get an OT. He had a 5-5 monster and I figured he had to have 5 ♥ for his jump so no "preference" back to ♠.

Passing 2♣ is silly .. neilkaz ..
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Posted 2010-August-17, 18:24

jdonn, on Aug 16 2010, 10:32 PM, said:

Fluffy, on Aug 15 2010, 06:16 PM, said:

I also remembered there was someone who passed 2♣ and it trned out well, but didn't remember it was wayne who did it.


Josh can you explain us how did you come back to this thread and why did you reopen it?

How was someone else linked to it, why was to drive you insane.

uh? not insane at all, was just curious, I couldn't understand it :P
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Posted 2010-August-17, 18:29

I was just kidding anyway :P
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Posted 2010-August-17, 21:22

I suppose this is the proper forum for my ignorance on the following topic:

Like a poster replies on page 1 of this thread, I was taught that 2C is not a 100% GF, but that rebids 1 trick below game can be passed.

Ex: 2C - 2D - 2N

Ex: 2C - 2H (dbl neg) - 2S - 3S

Ex: 2C - 2H (dbl neg) - 2S - 3D- 4D

I though this was universally accepted at certain levels of the game until I was playing one day with a partner that liked Kokish replies. (Of course, the various response and rebid methods one employs - such as 2nd negative - may have a major impact on whether a subsequent bid is GF.)

So the Kokish auction went: 2C - 2D(wk or waiting) - 2H(may be artificial) - 2S(forced relay) - 3H(natural)...?

I passed with something like xxxx xx xxx xxxx

Partner had a monster 25+ and made 5.

It was the Reisinger, and several great experts were around to question.

They seemed to agree 2C was generally forcing to 1 trick below game, but if playing Kokish, the auction becomes 100% GF.

Kokish was actually in the room, was queried, and agreed. But was too busy to explain.

Can anyone please explain why the Kokish flavor to the auction changes things this way? TY.
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