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Part 2 of the Further Misadventures of Rex and Jay The Other Side of the Fence

#1 User is offline   microcap 

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Posted 2005-June-08, 03:39

You hold:
Scoring: BAM
You open 1♣, now annoying LHO bids 3♥. Partner bids 3♠.

If RHO passes, what is your bid now?

If RHO bids 4♥, what is your bid now?

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Posted 2005-June-08, 04:57

mm? 4♠ of course, what else?
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Posted 2005-June-08, 05:09

If RHO bids 4H, I pass (forcing)

If RHO passes, I bid 4C.
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Posted 2005-June-08, 05:13

ditto, agree with mr1303
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Posted 2005-June-08, 05:19

4♠
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Posted 2005-June-08, 05:24

If RHO passes: 4♠.
If RHO bids 4♥: Pass.

I think I recognize the problem. Partner stretched with 3♠ on a sub-minimum and Axxxx. Her problem. I will not play mixed again ... at least not until June 19 in Tenerife.

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Posted 2005-June-08, 06:11

Roland---Rex and Jay is a politically mixed partnership, but both male! LOL :blink: :lol: :P Your analysis is right on however 8)) :rolleyes:
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Posted 2005-June-08, 07:47

4S. If rho bid 4H then pass

Just because 2 bids did not work well when combined with each other does not mean that those bids were not both the percentage actions.
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Posted 2005-June-08, 09:00

Jlall, on Jun 8 2005, 08:47 AM, said:

4S. If rho bid 4H then pass

Just because 2 bids did not work well when combined with each other does not mean that those bids were not both the percentage actions.

agree
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Posted 2005-June-08, 10:27

yep, seems straightforward.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2005-June-08, 10:39

4♠ when he passes, Pass when he bids... This is just logic imo.
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Posted 2005-June-08, 11:31

Pass with a doubleton honnor support and 3 top tricks? no way.
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Posted 2005-June-08, 20:35

Free, on Jun 8 2005, 11:39 AM, said:

4♠ when he passes, Pass when he bids... This is just logic imo.

Is the logic LOTT?What are the other hands?
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Posted 2005-June-09, 08:15

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Pass with a doubleton honnor support and 3 top tricks? no way.


It is a forcing pass, you know
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Posted 2005-June-09, 08:18

mr1303, on Jun 9 2005, 09:15 AM, said:

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Pass with a doubleton honnor support and 3 top tricks? no way.


It is a forcing pass, you know

Forcing pass !?!?

Not for me, sry ! Partner can strech and it's absolutely not clear why this pass should be forcing. Am I wrong here ??? :)

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Posted 2005-June-09, 08:20

3S establishes a game force, whether he can stretch or not is irrelevant. If you are in a GF and they bid 4H it cannot go all pass
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Posted 2005-June-09, 09:41

Frocing or not I am gonna support with support,
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Posted 2005-June-09, 10:34

joker_gib, on Jun 9 2005, 09:18 AM, said:

[It is a forcing pass, you know

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Forcing pass !?!?

Not for me, sry ! Partner can strech and it's absolutely not clear why this pass should be forcing. Am I wrong here ???  :P

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No you are not. Pass is not even remotely forcing. For once I strongly disagree with Justin.

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Posted 2005-June-09, 11:14

Say you're playing 2/1 and the auction proceeds like this

1H P 2C (4S)

is pass now forcing? I would say yes, because you're in a game forcing situation and your side hasn't pre-empted or limited their hand.

why is this any different when the auction goes:

1C (3H) 3S (not playing NFBs, so GF, since 4 of a minor is forcing) (4H)
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Posted 2005-June-09, 12:55

If I am in a GF auction, a pass is forcing to me.
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