Freakish hand
#1
Posted 2005-June-01, 04:49
All vuln, you hold:
♠ --
♥ AKQ986542
♦ JT97
♣ --
RHO you LHO pard
1♦.....??
Your options are:
1. Any nr. of hearts (preemptive, even at 5 or 6 level)
2. 3NT gambling with stopper
So, what is your favourite bid?
#2
Posted 2005-June-01, 05:11
Double followed by hearts is waste of time. Partner will never know if he has the right values for slam anyway. By the way, 4♥ could very well be the limit no matter how strong partner is. AKQ, AKQ in the black suits won't help a lot if he is void in hearts.
On a very bad day we are even down in 4♥ (partner's void and a diamond ruff). And they can't make anything, because partner is loaded in spades and clubs.
Roland
#4
Posted 2005-June-01, 06:17
On the other hand, if they're likely to overstretch to compete, then 6♥ will put them on a nasty guess as to whether to bid 6♠.
I prefer 5♥ to 4♥. Sure, there are times when 4♥ will be passed out, but there are far more where they'll bid 4♠ (unless the opponents are really cautious, in which case 4♥ is probably the right bid). Now they'll have a better chance of correctly guessing what to do over 5♥ (you're not selling out to 4♠, are you?)
I don't really like 3nt. Far too much chance that they'll run a black suit, or if p has stoppers, that he won't have a way of crossing to your hand. If you want to piss around, some number of ♠ is better.
#5
Posted 2005-June-01, 06:33
#6
Posted 2005-June-01, 07:05
I agree with Roland's analysis and bid 4♥.
#7 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2005-June-01, 07:49
#9
Posted 2005-June-01, 08:29
#10 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2005-June-01, 08:59
#11
Posted 2005-June-01, 09:07
Good Grief cannot I not just bid my hand and try and win in the play and defense? Let the opp make the last guess.
#12
Posted 2005-June-01, 09:07
#13 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2005-June-01, 09:30
mike777, on Jun 1 2005, 10:07 AM, said:
Good Grief cannot I not just bid my hand and try and win in the play and defense? Let the opp make the last guess.
I agree, except there is no way that im going to sell out below 5H unless partner doubles them which is why I bid it now. I *may* buy it for 4HX if i bid it now but it seems very unlikely. I would like to make the opps make the last guess as well, that is why I like FIVE hearts. If I bid 4, I will be making the last guess if they happen to bid on which is very likely.
#14
Posted 2005-June-01, 10:37
We are vul and I always read in bridge magazines "the 5 level belongs to the opp" I pass 4s or let them bid 4s or 4nt over my 4h bid.
This may very well be one of those Judgement hands where the top class will beat me but If playing with Hamman or Bobbie W. or Soloway or Justins I would bid 4h, shut up and hope to learn later. Heck they are UPH.
add on: what does anti law say here?
13-short suit adj-wp adj?
13-0-(see below)
wp
=16-18=-1
=13-15=-2
=10-12=-3
=7-9=-4
Worst case 5h=down 2. Of course this does not say opp are making anything.
#15
Posted 2005-June-01, 10:40
Personally, I think passing and then bidding hearts might win the day. Yes they might be suspicious, but will they really put me on this hand? Yes there are risks if partner starts bidding, but there are risks with any of the bids.
5♥ is my second choice as I think this puts opponents on the last guess.
4♥ is my third choice as partner could have a spade stack and I might buy the contract here. However, once I take this view, then I don't think I should necessarily push to 5♥.
A fun hand regardless.
#16
Posted 2005-June-01, 12:51
5h (p) 6s (yeee haaaa)
p (1s) 2c (4s)
5h (p) 6c (oh goodie, a club fit and fit jump)
#17
Posted 2005-June-01, 13:02
4♥ has teh great advantage that aprtner won't bid 4♠ on his first round, at least not to play them.
If opponents aren't strong I would bid just 1♥.
#18
Posted 2005-June-01, 13:05
#20
Posted 2005-June-01, 16:29
luke warm, on Jun 1 2005, 01:51 PM, said:
5h (p) 6s (yeee haaaa)
p (1s) 2c (4s)
5h (p) 6c (oh goodie, a club fit and fit jump)
Are we looking at the same auction? RHO opened 1♦. If partner blows you out of the water with a bid, that's the risk you take by passing. You don't compound it by making a bid that isn't part of your system. WTP? Any call you make carries a risk. I just think, let's have some fun with this.

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