If you are going to "mastermind" 9-4 is the time to do it lol
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#42
Posted 2005-June-02, 13:05
I just defined it but didn't use the M word so I guess it turns out to be a philosophical question. When pard says in the post-mortem, "If I'd known that you had 2 voids I would have passed (bid 6) (doubled) etc." Bridge bidding ALWAYS involves pard even if you are the only one who can see your cards. A preempt tells pard that there is nothing else about your hand that he needs to know other than there is no help for him and no defense. Strangely, the hand in question seems to have some defense against diamonds.....holy 2- edged sword! One of the best parts of the auction, knowing how to continue because you have an exact idea about what pard has (or doesn't have).
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#43
Posted 2005-June-02, 19:25
If I had overcalled 4H and cue bid 5D over pard's 4S call I would think I'm showing support for pard.
Justin, you may be right about a jump cue in a minor showing that suit although I don't have a sense how many pairs use it otherwise. We use it to show a solid suit - ostensibly the other minor, but I know that its also played as 'super michaels' often too.
The other day I picked up with Clarsen: AQJTxxxxx, void, Axxx, void and got to an easy 6S in about 4 calls LOL. Science - uh no. Bashing - maybe
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Justin, you may be right about a jump cue in a minor showing that suit although I don't have a sense how many pairs use it otherwise. We use it to show a solid suit - ostensibly the other minor, but I know that its also played as 'super michaels' often too.
The other day I picked up with Clarsen: AQJTxxxxx, void, Axxx, void and got to an easy 6S in about 4 calls LOL. Science - uh no. Bashing - maybe
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#44
Posted 2005-June-02, 20:42
Roughly 25 years ago (give or take 10 years) a hand with 10 solid hearts (and 3 small cards if I recall correctly) was dealt in what I believe was the semi-finals of a major ACBL or World Championship team event.
At all 4 tables where this deal was played, the player to the right of the heart hand opened 1 of a minor. The 4 great players who held 10 solid hearts chose 4 different actions. One passed(!), one overcalled 1H(!), one bid 4H, and one bid 5H.
I do not remember anything about the actual deal in terms of who could make what or exactly what happened at the 4 tables in which the deal was played, but I do have a fairly clear recollection of Edgar Kaplan's comments when he wrote up this deal in one of his brilliant match reports in The Bridge World magazine. He said something like:
"Not that one deal proves anything, but it strikes me as just that the only 2 successful actions were the credible underbid of 1H and the bold preempt of 5H."
Perhaps I will forever be biased by this wonderful comment, but with the 9-4 hand that is the subject of this post, my first 2 choices (in no particular order) would be 1H and 5H
Fred Gitelman
Bridge Base Inc.
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At all 4 tables where this deal was played, the player to the right of the heart hand opened 1 of a minor. The 4 great players who held 10 solid hearts chose 4 different actions. One passed(!), one overcalled 1H(!), one bid 4H, and one bid 5H.
I do not remember anything about the actual deal in terms of who could make what or exactly what happened at the 4 tables in which the deal was played, but I do have a fairly clear recollection of Edgar Kaplan's comments when he wrote up this deal in one of his brilliant match reports in The Bridge World magazine. He said something like:
"Not that one deal proves anything, but it strikes me as just that the only 2 successful actions were the credible underbid of 1H and the bold preempt of 5H."
Perhaps I will forever be biased by this wonderful comment, but with the 9-4 hand that is the subject of this post, my first 2 choices (in no particular order) would be 1H and 5H
Fred Gitelman
Bridge Base Inc.
www.bridgebase.com
#45
Posted 2005-June-02, 21:29
Echognome, on Jun 2 2005, 02:40 PM, said:
(1♦) - 1♥ - (P) - 1/2/3/4♠
(P) - 5♦ - (P) - ?
Isn't this obviously a long heart suit and nothing else?

(P) - 5♦ - (P) - ?
Isn't this obviously a long heart suit and nothing else?
This looks like a transfer to a ♠ contract, probably into alevel where you won't be able to correct, even to 7♥ :-P
Seriously, any cue after partner shows ♠ is gonna be taken as support.
#47
Posted 2005-June-04, 17:41
whereagles, on Jun 1 2005, 03:49 AM, said:
Matchpoints opposite weak field. Intermediate pard who usually overbids.
Gee I dont remember this hand
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Bridge should be fun!
SHAPE!
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly." (MH)

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