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To bid or not to bid part 2

Poll: To bid or not to bid part 2 (46 member(s) have cast votes)

What is your bid

  1. Pass (12 votes [26.09%])

    Percentage of vote: 26.09%

  2. Double (3 votes [6.52%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.52%

  3. 2H (31 votes [67.39%])

    Percentage of vote: 67.39%

  4. 2S (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. Other (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   nekthen 

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Posted 2020-July-03, 11:30



North South play 4 card majors

Teams if it matters to you

EDIT Of course this is west hand
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Posted 2020-July-03, 13:20


Nethken "North South play 4 card majors. Teams if it matters to you"
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I rank
1. 2 = NAT Dangerous but "it's a bidder's game".
2. Pass = NAT "Discretion is the better part of valour".
3. Double = T/O "Once more unto the breach dear friends."
4. 2 = CUE "Michaels? The lunatics have taken over the asylum".

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Posted 2020-July-03, 13:31

Is this actually the west hand ? or did west pass and N bid 1 ?

Assuming one of those, I'm happy with 2 and pass, and wouldn't criticise partner for either, with a nice heart suit I might bid but opps will probably play spades so I don't need to tell myself to lead one. Vulnerability just leans me towards pass, just possible this will end the auction for -200/500 with nothing on for the opps.
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Posted 2020-July-03, 14:17

I might go for 800 sometimes but 5 nice H and an opening hand is an okay overcall. This one is easier than the other.
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Posted 2020-July-03, 15:36

Style counts. In my current partnerships, we open all balanced 11 counts, we we have slightly different inference as to partner’s hand than do most. Game is very unlikely opposite a passed hand. We have a minimum in hcp,for a red v white overcall, and short hearts. Make one of my minor spots a heart, and 2H would be clear, and probably unanimous. OTOH, we have the 108 in hearts, and we are very likely to get a spade lead. Plus, if LHO is going to be declaring,we’d like a heart lead, and we’re 2=5=2=4 not 2=5=3=3

This is borderline but I think bidding is ‘normal’. If playing a weak team, I pass since I don’t expect to lose a game swing often, and going 800 or 1100 into their game is too much to risk. Under all other conditions, I bid 2H.....but I’d be very afraid�� Opposite my partners, I’d pass, nervously.
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Posted 2020-July-04, 05:19

It's hard to follow mikeh, but South's spade king is in the right position and he has just enough for 2H.
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Posted 2020-July-04, 08:31

Sir,
For me it is a straightforward 2.I am not going too be cowed down by the vulnerability.
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Posted 2020-July-04, 10:07

Hand here

This went for 800

Do you think partner should stick his neck out with an SOS xx?
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Posted 2020-July-04, 10:56

View Postnekthen, on 2020-July-04, 10:07, said:

Hand here

This went for 800

Do you think partner should stick his neck out with an SOS xx?


Absolutely.
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Posted 2020-July-04, 11:15

View Postnudnikbp, on 2020-July-04, 05:19, said:

It's hard to follow mikeh, but South's spade king is in the right position and he has just enough for 2H.

Yeah, poorly written. But Id pass in my partnerships due to our opening almost all 11 counts, thus partners pass means we are very unlikely to have game, and the hand is too dangerous to want to fight for a partial. Passing might lose 5-6 imps but it wont lose 12. Plus, sometimes passing with values leads the opps astray. Very close decision and in a 15-17 1N style, thus partner passes balanced 11 counts, Id be (nervously) overcalling
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Posted 2020-July-04, 11:24

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Yes, it's dangerous. But it is also the one and only chance to reach a 4 game. And that counts vul at teams.
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Posted 2020-July-04, 11:26

I'd pass I don't think it's particularly close either
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Posted 2020-July-04, 11:43

View PostHuibertus, on 2020-July-04, 11:24, said:

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Yes, it's dangerous. But it is also the one and only chance to reach a 4 game. And that counts vul at teams.


Mike H and I pretty much know there is no 4 game on due to what we open on in first seat. I absolutely agree with his assessment.
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Posted 2020-July-04, 14:07

2 everytime.
For DBL and there are too few points
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Posted 2020-July-04, 15:07

I pass. The suit quality is not quite good enough for a red vs white overcall (I'd like a sixth heart), and with my luck at the bridge table I am not pushing it.
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Posted 2020-July-04, 15:34

View Postnekthen, on 2020-July-03, 11:30, said:



North South play 4 card majors

Teams if it matters to you

EDIT Of course this is west hand


I pass without a second thought. There is no sensible action with this hand..and the vulnerability is against you.
Best to pass and await developments. Bidding 2 with that suit is just tempting Fate.. North hasn't yet bid and could be sitting
with the balance of the heart suit over you ready tp pounce..Play safe and pass.
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Posted 2020-July-04, 16:35

View Postnekthen, on 2020-July-04, 10:07, said:

Hand here

This went for 800

Do you think partner should stick his neck out with an SOS xx?


No, but overcaller should run to 3.

Never pass out a low-level penalty double or penalty pass unless you are *certain* running will make it worse. Not just *fear* you will make it worse.
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Posted 2020-July-04, 16:38

View PostPhilG007, on 2020-July-04, 15:34, said:



await developments.


Are you suggesting that further developments might bring you in at the THREE level?
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Posted 2020-July-04, 16:45

View Postbluenikki, on 2020-July-04, 16:38, said:

Are you suggesting that further developments might bring you in at the THREE level?


No but 1-P-1N-P-2 might bring me out with a double.
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Posted 2020-July-04, 22:50

Sir,
very recently I held QJ54KQJ83VOIDAJ86. Partner passed RHO opened 1--Do you bid or pass?
I passed and the bidding went 1Pass-3PASS4 Now what Pass or anything else?
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