[MickyB]

I'm thinking about a strong club system where a 1M (and possibly 1♦) opener is usually 4 cards or 6 cards - something like 10-12 bal or 10-15 either single suited or two suited canape. I'm wondering about 2M openers showing 5M4+♣, anyone know if there are any similar systems? I believe those 2M openers were used in old Italian system and I'm told they were used by a pair on vugraph recently, anyone know any more?

TIA

[hrothgar]

Roman Club featured a 2M opening showing the major and clubs

[luke warm]

weiss uses all 1 bids to show 2 suiters, canape always (unless clubs involved)... 2 suiters are 11-15/16, 6+.. 2c is 3 suiter... i've been working on something that combines the one and two suiters into the 1 bids so can still have 2 bids weak, haven't finished yet

[david_c]

MickyB, on May 30 2005, 07:39 PM, said:

I believe those 2M openers were used in old Italian system and I'm told they were used by a pair on vugraph recently,

This was FitzGibbon/Mesbur of the Irish team in Istanbul; you can find their CC on the ecats site. Their card says "Blue Club" but I don't believe that's an accurate description.

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Take a look here
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i also remember there was a system caqlled protest that had the same idea about 1 level opening ,the name protest is because they protest againt all the world moving to 5 card major and therfore made a system that 1 level show either 4 or 6 cards, but never 5 cards

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i have just found the info about the protest system, i will paste it here :
"
Protest* 1.69

The Protest system was developed in 1985, as a protest against the 5
card major openings promoted by Goren's Goren's New Bridge
Complete. In Protest, a major opening can be 4 or 6 cards, but never
5. Information from the inventor, Richard Lighton, Wood-Ridge, New
Jersey.

Protest Opening Bids
1C 12-21 4+ clubs or 5 card major
1D 12-21 4+ diamonds
1H 12-21 4 or 6+ hearts
1S 12-21 4 or 6+ spades
1N 12-16 no 4 card major
2C 22+ any shape
2D 11-15 4441
2H 10-14 5-6 hearts and 4+ clubs
2S 10-14 5-6 spades and 4+ clubs
2N 20-22 balanced

The 1C opening can contain as few as zero clubs in a 5530 hand, and it
denies a 4 card major. After 1C/D, 1H/S shows a 5+ card suit, since
opener doesn't have a 4 card major.
"