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#21 User is offline   Winstonm 

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Posted 2018-June-14, 09:43

If anyone can find and post the Bergen-Cohen v Wolff-Hamman hand of which I wrote earlier, it would be a treat. Bergen also held a 7-5 hand, and Hamman was in third seat, defending.

If anyone is interested in this historical hand, a link is found here.
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Posted 2018-June-14, 12:40

A comment and a couple of questions:

3C followed by 4NT seems clear to me, too (I'm not worried that the auction will get passed out in 3C, and if it does, that might be OK). Big offensive hand; lots of clubs; some diamonds, too. Clubs significantly better than diamonds, else you would have bid 4S or 4NT over 2S.

Now the questions:

After a 2S opener, you should discuss what a 4S overcall means and how that differs from a 4NT bid. One treatment is for bids to show minors, with 4NT being a strong hand that just wants to gamble 5m, and 4S being a moose with very serious slam interest. After a 4S bid, advancer bids 4NT to show slam interest. What other treatments are common (I don't know)?

Also after a 2H opener, query what a 4H bid shows. One would think that playing Leaping Michaels (4c and 4d show the bid minor and spades and are GF), 4H would show minors sort of like 4S does after 2S. I guess 4S after that would be natural and 4NT slammish? How do others play this?

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Posted 2018-June-14, 15:44

View PostTramticket, on 2018-June-14, 05:09, said:

This is a new and fascinating bidding concept - Canapé overcalls. :)

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Posted 2018-June-14, 16:16

View PostTramticket, on 2018-June-14, 01:28, said:

Doesn't 3 followed by 4NT tend to show this 7-5 shape? With 6-5 you probably bid 2NT at the previous turn?

My mistake. Somehow I missed my previous 3C overcall.
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Posted 2018-June-14, 17:38

don't let one non thinking partner wreck your good bidding. Keep up the good work and maybe just maybe you will improve all of our bridge one hand at a time:) 3c followed by 4n for me.
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Posted 2018-June-15, 08:25



4NT was not that succesful :lol:

What is the best bid actually? 5?

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Posted 2018-June-15, 08:55

You bid it fine, partner's pass is new partner asking bid
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Posted 2018-June-15, 09:55

So you're North playing in , how do you set about the two Queens?
At first sight it looks easy to lose both.
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Posted 2018-June-15, 14:38

View Postpescetom, on 2018-June-15, 09:55, said:

So you're North playing in , how do you set about the two Queens?
At first sight it looks easy to lose both.


You bang down AK then ruff the clubs good, or just K then club to the ace and another club, you're never losing a club with this layout
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