[candybar]

People frequently leave at the end of an auction when they see their partner's hand, or in the middle of a hand, when they know they are getting a bad result. This is mostly because they don't want to be 'charged' with a bad score (despite the lack of public rating system, it seems to matter).

Then a replacement player comes in, has to either (1) finish the bad board and get charged with the bad result that someone else caused, or (2) redeal and lose the board for the pair getting the good result.

An easy way to fix all this is to make the board count for whoever was seated at the end of the auction.

That way, there is no advantage to not finishing the hand, and in fact a decided incentive to trying to do the best you can with it.

And, an incoming player can freely finish an abandoned hand without it counting against them.

Please consider this suggestion seriously, because I see 4 or 5 people a day leave my table for the reason of a bad contract and I'm sure it's the same everywhere else.

[fred]

The way it now works is that the 4 people who are "charged" for the board are the 4 people who makes the first bids in each of the 4 seats.

Isn't that better than what you suggest?

Probably the best way to handle this is for the software to detect when people leave in the middle of the board and automatically do something appropriate (warn them and bar people who ignore the warning enough times).

Fred Gitelman
Bridge Base Inc.
www.bridgebase.com

[julie5607]

The title of this topic made me think of a suggestion for the software that would fit under this heading, and although it's not what the topic author planned I may as well put it in here.

One of the nice features about tables is that the host can type a name into a spot to reserve it for someone. However, there is no current way to reserve a seat when someone is already sitting in it. So, if someone announces "last hand" and their partner wants the seat to go to another friend, or if the host wants to type "closing" or some such message to keep people from asking permission to sit, the host must wait till the seat is vacated first. There have been many times where I have been host and I am continually interrupted with seating requests while I am trying to type in a name or even an "xx" to keep another player from sitting. Currently, unless the seat is empty, there is no name typed in the seat's "box", but it is greyed out and inaccessible for typing. Can that be changed so a name can be typed into that box which will appear as a red "reserved" name when the seat is actually vacated?

Thanks,

Julie

[jillybean]

Hi,

Change the table to invisible before the player leaves then you will be able to reserve seat without having to deal with players wanting to sit.

[csdenmark]

fred, on Apr 28 2005, 09:37 PM, said:

Probably the best way to handle this is for the software to detect when people leave in the middle of the board and automatically do something appropriate (warn them and bar people who ignore the warning enough times).

We have been waiting for years Fred. Very often it is software processing the rude behavior(sucking into tourney).

We will have nice days at Main Club Fred as soon this will be effected!

[Brandal]

candybar, on Apr 28 2005, 02:33 PM, said:

People frequently leave at the end of an auction when they see their partner's hand, or in the middle of a hand, when they know they are getting a bad result. This is mostly because they don't want to be 'charged' with a bad score (despite the lack of public rating system, it seems to matter).

Then a replacement player comes in, has to either (1) finish the bad board and get charged with the bad result that someone else caused, or (2) redeal and lose the board for the pair getting the good result.

An easy way to fix all this is to make the board count for whoever was seated at the end of the auction.

That way, there is no advantage to not finishing the hand, and in fact a decided incentive to trying to do the best you can with it.

And, an incoming player can freely finish an abandoned hand without it counting against them.

Please consider this suggestion seriously, because I see 4 or 5 people a day leave my table for the reason of a bad contract and I'm sure it's the same everywhere else.

As for the scoring,I always reset the score when
a new player joins,it seems the right thing to do.

As for people leaving all the time,that is a huge issue.

When opps are randomly selected,it seems impossible
to get past 1 board without having to get a new opp
or both.

3-4-5 new people before things settle,is about
the going rate,and it is annoying.

I don't have a solution,I'm just working my way
past creme brulee

[Brandal]

fred, on Apr 28 2005, 02:37 PM, said:

The way it now works is that the 4 people who are "charged" for the board are the 4 people who makes the first bids in each of the 4 seats.

Isn't that better than what you suggest?

Probably the best way to handle this is for the software to detect when people leave in the middle of the board and automatically do something appropriate (warn them and bar people who ignore the warning enough times).

Fred Gitelman
Bridge Base Inc.
www.bridgebase.com

I think it's best left the way it is Fred.

Better to let 10 guilty go free than to punish
one with a poor connection,is my take on it.

And if someone doesn't want to be at my table
I don't want them there either.

Doesn't mark them as enemies or write a note
on them work?

I ask because I've never marked anyone black

[candybar]

fred, on Apr 28 2005, 02:37 PM, said:

The way it now works is that the 4 people who are "charged" for the board are the 4 people who makes the first bids in each of the 4 seats.

Isn't that better than what you suggest?

Probably the best way to handle this is for the software to detect when people leave in the middle of the board and automatically do something appropriate (warn them and bar people who ignore the warning enough times).

Fred Gitelman
Bridge Base Inc.
www.bridgebase.com

Ah, great! Then I apologize for even making this thread. I was told by a yellow that the 4 people in the seats at the end of the hand were the ones charged with the board.

[ng:)]

Old suggestions:

1. Its occured many times that during play somebody left and the next second he sit to another table. U should prevent table jumpers from play. Solution: they can't sit to another table at least 3 hours after jump.

2. 'Notify me when friend logs in' bubble covers the bidding area.

3. Would be better if besides friends u have an another option: VIP = Very Important Person.

4. Current bidding explanation covers previous bid. Would be better if the explanation text appears not above but under the current bid.

5. Would be better if host has another table setting option: no IMP, no MP, No Rubber,... i.e. No Score Table for social players.

Thx and regards, Gabor

[pigpenz]

Really....yesterday i filled in at a table where the declarer got mad and left I assume....he was in 2♥ and should have been in game, the result low% went to my stats.


maybe when people leave early like that a timer can be place that doesnt allow them to log on to BBO under that nickname for a period of time. Its frustrating cause as a TD you spend most of your time replacing players who leave in the middle of a game the red ones are a different story

[uday]

At one time i regularly blocked bailers from joining tourneys for a few days. I dont remember why i stopped doing this. I guess I should start again

[Brandal]

uday, on May 2 2005, 10:06 AM, said:

At one time i regularly blocked bailers from joining tourneys for a few days. I dont remember why i stopped doing this. I guess I should start again

People who leave in middle of hand,and are still on
BBO,yes,they need to be housebroken.

[inquiry]

uday, on May 2 2005, 11:06 AM, said:

At one time i regularly blocked bailers from joining tourneys for a few days. I dont remember why i stopped doing this. I guess I should start again

Probably you stopped it for the following reason...

On the last hand, if dummy says, "thanks all it was fun. See you later partner" and politely logs off, the software considered that "abandoning" the tourney. As a result, people who "stayed to completion" were getting banned (after all, dummy's role is over once he lays down the dummy.... but don't tell Iltaliains the the dummy has no role, not after last year....)

Ben

[Brandal]

inquiry, on May 2 2005, 04:08 PM, said:

after all, dummy's role is over once he lays down the dummy.... but don't tell Iltaliains the the dummy has no role, not after last year

Ben

What happened?

[Gerardo]

ng:), on Apr 28 2005, 11:19 PM, said:

Old suggestions:

1. Its occured many times that during play somebody left and the next second he sit to another table. U should prevent table jumpers from play. Solution: they can't sit to another table at least 3 hours after jump.

I'd do this, but just 10 mins, maybe 15, but not more. Every time, of course.

That's annoying enough IMO, if you are in the middle of you session, makes jumping pointless, and allows emergency jumps.

I'd also abolish the 15-min previous to tourney ban to sit in main. If you are sit (or banned for jumping) at tourney start, you miss the tourney. (for pay tourneys, you are still in if you're banned for jumping, but not if still sit).