[Winstonm]

On the question of whether to bid 2D or 1N - I have a slight preference for 2D on the reasoning that partner is less likely to get excited about this response and give me a raise. I really don't want to play 2 or 3nt with these cards.

I do not double the 2H bid - I'm thankful I don't have to play this misfit.

[han]

I don't remember partner's hand exactly, but his shape was 3145, he had 17 HCP's and the king of spades.

I bid 1NT, and then doubled 2H. But it wasn't over, the complete auction was:

(1H)-Dbl-pass-1NT
(2D)-Dbl-(2H)-Dbl
(pass)-pass-(Rdbl)-pass
(2S)-Dbl-all pass.

They found their only fit, spades. We could have set it if partner had lead a spade, but he didn't, and they made their game (forgot to tell, it was a team-game). 3NT our way would have been down 1.

After the hand my partner got a bit upset, and said that both 1NT and double were absolutely wrong. Since he had about 17000 masterpoints (ACBL), about 100 times as much as I had, I didn't argue with him. Later he explained that 1NT is not correct since he would play me for more. Both pass and 2D were possible according to him. Once I bid 1NT, I could never double 2H since that would confirm the values I had shown.

Interesting hand.

[mike777]

Hannie, on May 2 2005, 02:21 PM, said:

They found their only fit, spades. We could have set it if partner had lead a spade, but he didn't, and they made their game (forgot to tell, it was a team-game). 3NT our way would have been down 1.

After the hand my partner got a bit upset, and said that both 1NT and double were absolutely wrong. Since he had about 17000 masterpoints (ACBL), about 100 times as much as I had, I didn't argue with him. Later he explained that 1NT is not correct since he would play me for more. Both pass and 2D were possible according to him. Once I bid 1NT, I could never double 2H since that would confirm the values I had shown.

Interesting hand.

If P has 17 and thinks you have full values for 1nt, yes? Why did p not lead trump to play hand in NT? Where are opp getting tricks except with cross ruff?

OH well!

[han]

I agree Mike, I think that people with 17000 masterpoints make silly mistakes too, but that wasn't really the point of the story.

[luke warm]

Hannie, on May 2 2005, 01:21 PM, said:

I don't remember partner's hand exactly, but his shape was 3145, he had 17 HCP's and the king of spades.

I bid 1NT, and then doubled 2H. But it wasn't over, the complete auction was:

(1H)-Dbl-pass-1NT
(2D)-Dbl-(2H)-Dbl
(pass)-pass-(Rdbl)-pass
(2S)-Dbl-all pass.

They found their only fit, spades. We could have set it if partner had lead a spade, but he didn't, and they made their game (forgot to tell, it was a team-game). 3NT our way would have been down 1.

After the hand my partner got a bit upset, and said that both 1NT and double were absolutely wrong. Since he had about 17000 masterpoints (ACBL), about 100 times as much as I had, I didn't argue with him. Later he explained that 1NT is not correct since he would play me for more. Both pass and 2D were possible according to him. Once I bid 1NT, I could never double 2H since that would confirm the values I had shown.

Interesting hand.

right... "no matter what he has, his 2nd double tells me he has a minimum of 16 hcp and could have more... i think his x of 2d is penalty... i'd x 2h..."

the very fact that he x'd 2♦ shows his strength *and* his disposition towards diamonds, imo... i like your x of 2♥... i believe it's down several on a heart lead, same as i believe your partner should have led a spade (as mike said)

of course he is forced to x 2♠ (else bid, else forcing pass), but the fact that it didn't work out might not be an indictment against your bidding... but 17,000 mps does make for a good argument

[cf_John0]

luis, on Apr 27 2005, 10:02 AM, said:

I won't double 2h.

1NT,then pass.They must escape away from 2HX.