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What do you bet in this hand? (Opener's rebit afrer 1H)

Poll: What do you bet in this hand? (12 member(s) have cast votes)

What do you bet in this hand?

  1. 1NT (11 votes [91.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 91.67%

  2. 2H (1 votes [8.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.33%

  3. 2C (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. 2S (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. 3H (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. 4H (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  7. PASS (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  8. Something else (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   kontoleon 

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Posted 2017-October-05, 21:38

OK is Mathpoint and we are Vul.
Ok I can smell the "corect" anwser here, but this 7 answers is the bets in EXPESS Tournament.

After this, i learn something "new" from me, Tnx from your time
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Posted 2017-October-05, 22:02

View Postkontoleon, on 2017-October-05, 21:38, said:

OK is Mathpoint and we are Vul.
Ok I can smell the "corect" anwser here, but this 7 answers is the bets in EXPESS Tournament.

After this, i learn something "new" from me, Tnx from your time


2 8/11 3 card
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Posted 2017-October-05, 23:46

View PostLBengtsson, on 2017-October-05, 22:02, said:

2 8/11 3 card

In express tournaments your supposed to use the Gib convention card. Gib play constructive raises.
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Posted 2017-October-06, 00:00

View Postkontoleon, on 2017-October-05, 21:38, said:

OK is Mathpoint and we are Vul. Ok I can smell the "correct" anwser here, but this 7 answers is the bets in EXPESS Tournament. After this, i learn something "new" from me, Tnx from your time

It depends on agreements. Some partnerships use an artificial 2 as a good 3-card raise. Others assign that meaning to 2. If a 1N reply is forcing then you might bid 1N and then jump in . Lacking such agreements, a 2 raise is possible with this pudding shape but, IMO, that is an underbid with 3 quick-tricks and good intermediates. 3 and 4 raises seem more appropriate. Even 2N (Jacoby) is possible. To keep 3N in the picture and to attempt to right-side that contract, however, i prefer to start with 2.
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Posted 2017-October-06, 00:48

Ok the "correct" move here is 1nt Forcing. But why the most players bet here 4H i have no idea(5 bets 1nt and 5 bets 4H?) If i am West (until yesterday) i bet 3H(10-12 points 3H) but here one 1 bets this one! ok i am fine with 2level bet here but i used them with 13+ points

But all "BOOKS" on net said 3H= 10-12+3H(cards) and here the Gib said 3H=4+H Preempt. Have change something? i have no idea. So you don't really know what should bet on Express tournaments and you try to bet the most "common"

Anyway After the 4H from partener i "forced" to fold with this.
Ok i miss the slam bet, but the only reason i sent this topic is the 5 out of 19 table.

And is Common bet and on other hands too!(i have see both preempt and massive call and i have no idea what this partener have) Bad players or something have change i have no idea! I really preffere the forcing bet here. Anyway This game need a good live partener to have real fun

From this reasons ask your opinion brother. i wanted to see if someone tells 4H here
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Posted 2017-October-06, 01:20

For the bots 3h is a 4cd support limit raise, 10-12, not preemptive (either you misread description or ran into a bug), with 3 supposed to go through 1nt forcing.


Not entirely clear from your post but you bid 1nt? Then the bot bids 4h?


For bot this shows strong hands like this. It is not the common way to bid among better human players, I think this usually shows many hearts, fewer high card, slightly too strong for open 4H. It's just one sequence among many where you have to learn the bot is a bit weird, and maybe eventually bbo fix the programming. If you play with random human with unknown skill level cannot really know which hand 4h show, it is guess.


By the way the English bridge term is "bid", not "bet".
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Posted 2017-October-06, 02:03

For reference:

http://www.bridgebas...rname=kontoleon

Being an express tournament, you are not playing with bots, you are playing with humans.

And the majority of humans who play in those express tournaments have no clue how to bid, so I wouldn't read much into it.
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Posted 2017-October-06, 02:13

So this is the reason that this tournament looks like a lotery?

I mean all the table have so many deference resolds.in almost all hand, this is no natural! Ok bro i am new is this tour(2 weaks) And i taken the answers from your opinions. So i should stot this tour and i start the live with Good parteners, and NO RADOMS. Tnx all from trying to answer this Question anyway. Ok in this Hand after 1H-4H i pass.

HAVE FUN Gyus
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Posted 2017-October-06, 12:51

I would show a 3 card limit raise however my system does so.
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Posted 2017-October-07, 06:25

couple of clarifiers---OPENER bid 1h after the pass it is now RESPONDER's turn to decide what to BID. This bid is not made in a vacuum. The system in use can make a huge difference. That means the question is not easily answered as one would have to
provide an opinion on at least 3 systems if not more making the poll unuseable.

I would use whatever system bid i had to treat this hand as invitational unless playing a system where very sound opening bids are in use then I would create a GF auction.
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