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Last seat opening bid problem

Poll: How do you open this hand in the passout seat? (34 member(s) have cast votes)

How do you open this hand in the passout seat?

  1. Pass (1 votes [2.94%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.94%

  2. 1[DI] (12 votes [35.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 35.29%

  3. 2[CL] (1 votes [2.94%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.94%

  4. 3NT (13 votes [38.24%])

    Percentage of vote: 38.24%

  5. 5[DI] (3 votes [8.82%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.82%

  6. Other (4 votes [11.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.76%

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#1 User is offline   Gerben42 

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Posted 2005-April-15, 17:00

Scoring: IMP


3 passes to you. As I have no clue what to bid I will be generous and include an "other" option in my poll.
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Posted 2005-April-15, 17:04

3NT

Is this not what Gambling 3nt is all about otherwise why bother to have it on CC?
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Posted 2005-April-15, 17:16

Perhaps 3N, though I am risking to miss a not impossible slam. The problem with opening 1D is that I dont have an ideal rebid after pd's 1M.
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Posted 2005-April-15, 17:22

This seems a 3D opener to me in 4th seat.
It avoids opps competition, shows a great suit with full opening and asks pard to bid 3NT with something on the side
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Posted 2005-April-15, 17:25

I can make a slam opposite and Ace and a King...

Unfortunately, the hand is flawed for a high level preempt. TTwo losers in the Spade suit rules out a conventional 4NT opening. 5♦ jams the auction hopelessly.

I'm opening 1♦ and hoping for an intelligent auction.
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Posted 2005-April-15, 17:55

1 Diamond. 3N is presumptuous with these major suit holdings.
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Posted 2005-April-15, 18:54

hrothgar, on Apr 15 2005, 11:25 PM, said:

I can make a slam opposite and Ace and a King...

I want your playing skills mate ;).

1♦ to me, might pass against strong opps.
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Posted 2005-April-16, 10:33

3NT. A no-brainer for me :)
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Posted 2005-April-16, 11:15

3N.

More worried about missing slam than going down.

But most of all worried about the opps discovering their 10 card major fit.
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Posted 2005-April-16, 13:33

3NT is tempting, but I start with 1D.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2005-April-16, 14:01

Jlall, on Apr 15 2005, 11:55 PM, said:

1 Diamond. 3N is presumptuous with these major suit holdings.

Just curious. What do you plan to rebid after pd's 1M? I am not against 1D, just dont know what the ideal rebid is. If there is an idea rebid, I would vote for 1D too.
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Posted 2005-April-16, 14:23

flytoox, on Apr 16 2005, 03:01 PM, said:

Jlall, on Apr 15 2005, 11:55 PM, said:

1 Diamond. 3N is presumptuous with these major suit holdings.

Just curious. What do you plan to rebid after pd's 1M? I am not against 1D, just dont know what the ideal rebid is. If there is an idea rebid, I would vote for 1D too.

Well, if pard bids 1H and neither of the opps bid then i'll just bid 3N. Even if we have no spade stopper, neither opp overcalled 1S when they were both able to as passed hands so they are likely 4-4. If partner bids 1S, I would settle on the pretty big underbid of 3D. If the opps arent bidding he'll probably have enough to bid again anyways, and if he passes we will often be in the best spot. Nothings perfect. At least this way we avoid alot of ridiculous 3Ns and can find 5D or a diamond partscore if its right.
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Posted 2005-April-16, 14:47

3NT...
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  Posted 2005-April-16, 14:54

perfect acol 3NT.
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Posted 2005-April-18, 03:03

2C.

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Posted 2005-April-18, 03:29

The full hand can be found here, judge for yourself. Note that a 4th seat 3NT is not discussed, in other seats it would show no side A/K.

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Posted 2005-April-18, 03:33

Gerben42, on Apr 18 2005, 09:29 AM, said:

The full hand can be found here, judge for yourself. Note that a 4th seat 3NT is not discussed, in other seats it would show no side A/K.

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Well, your opps were cold for 4 spades. Even going down in 3NT not a big issue, no?

BTW, in the 4th seat I recommnd to open a "Gambling 3NT" as 3 of the minor.
Usually, when opps know how to bid (not these ones: how come South did not open ?? ) there is little to preempt (e.g. they knew what they were doing when they passed befor, they won't "wake up" now: and even if they do, pard will have his share of points to get at their throat).

If you open the "Gambling" hand 3m, the likely 3NT will be rightsided.
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Posted 2005-April-18, 03:39

Chamaco, on Apr 18 2005, 04:33 AM, said:

Well, your opps were cold for 4 spades. Even going down in 3NT not a big issue, no?

Well, on the other hand, your own side is cold for 5D,
and even 5C is a reasonable contract.

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Posted 2005-April-18, 05:43

So if a gambing hand opens 3m, what does p p p 3NT show?

5♠x -1 is par on this hand. They make 4♠ we make 5♦.
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Posted 2005-April-18, 07:00

yup 2c
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