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#1 User is offline   lycier 

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Posted 2016-November-17, 15:38



This hand is from 8-board mp Arena Challenges.
After 5 to answer my blackwood asking bid, I really have no way to confirm it is zero or 3 hey cards in its hand, only return to 5.
However I have to say that " 6 - Correct back " is a necessary obligation to partner for north Gib.

(Note actually I am at south seat.)
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Posted 2016-November-17, 18:22

Well, you do know North has 3 key cards, but I have noticed that corrections haven't been happening. On this hand, you have 19 HCP, if you are missing AAK, partner would have at most 10HCP. Possible I suppose, but x JTxxxx KQJ QJx doesn't look like an opening bid.
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Posted 2016-November-17, 20:19

View Postmanudude03, on 2016-November-17, 18:22, said:

Well, you do know North has 3 key cards, but I have noticed that corrections haven't been happening. On this hand, you have 19 HCP, if you are missing AAK, partner would have at most 10HCP. Possible I suppose, but x JTxxxx KQJ QJx doesn't look like an opening bid.


Thank you for your good reply.Posted Image
However, Helgemo had ever said that guess is a worst part of this game.
Now let me try, then Gib will tell you correct answer.



How about it?
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Posted 2016-November-17, 20:24

Sorry, I forgot to tell you Gib bidding rule just now.
If hold 5+ cards major suit only with 12TPs in the 10hcp hand, Gib will open .
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Posted 2016-November-17, 22:09

Just to play devil's advocate -if you don't want to bid the slam because you think there is a chance (albeit very small) that Gib has 0 keycards, doesn't Gib have an identical excuse that there is a chance (albeit very small) that you have 0 keycards?

The first virtually requires Gib to have every point but the aces - the second requires you to - eg:

KQJx
Qxx
KQJ
KQJ

You could even take away a jack or two.
I have nothing worth contributing, bye
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Posted 2016-November-17, 22:36

View Postlycier, on 2016-November-17, 15:38, said:



This hand is from 8-board mp Arena Challenges.
After 5 to answer my blackwood asking bid, I really have no way to confirm it is zero or 3 hey cards in its hand, only return to 5.
However I have to say that " 6 - Correct back " is a necessary obligation to partner for north Gib.

(Note actually I am at south seat.)

Is the correct intermediate bid, 3H or can you cue even?
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Posted 2016-November-18, 03:08

View Postmanudude03, on 2016-November-17, 18:22, said:

Possible I suppose, but x JTxxxx KQJ QJx doesn't look like an opening bid.


GIB opens a lot of hands that don't look like an opening bid :P There are no good or bad total points in the GIB system, only points.
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Posted 2016-November-18, 06:43

View Postjohnu, on 2016-November-18, 03:08, said:

There are no good or bad total points in the GIB system, only points.


Excellent reply.
Now I understand exactly this principle.
Thank you.
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Posted 2016-November-18, 21:03

This won't be changing. FWIW in live bridge I don't play that partner corrects with the higher amount either.
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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