[Cascade]

(1x) X (Pass) 3x?

What is a useful treatment for this cue-bid?

Would it be different over a minor and a major?

TIA

[Gerben42]

Over a minor I would play this as invitational with both majors.
Over a major I would play this as asking for a stopper with a long minor.

[Chamaco]

I don't know whether this makes sense, anyways here are my thoughts

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Possible treatments over

1m opener

a. inv+ with both majors. However, most pairs play that the simple cue is 2-way: either inv+ with MM or generic GF.
So this seems redundant;

b. stop ask for NT

c. to me it seems reasonable to use it as a sort of 2-suiter, 55 or better.
Since the major 55+ could go via a simple cue, I think it makes sense to use it as a sort of Leaping Michaels-type, e.g. other minor + a major.


1M opener

a. stop ask for NT

b. 55 or better in minors, inv+; Leaping michaels type (55 M+m) would bid 4m

[pclayton]

A double jump cue in a minor usually says "pick a major".

Perhaps Mauro's 1st idea makes sense: over a minor, a jump Q says "pick a major and a level". Sort of like the Weissberger treatment over a 1N oopening - 1N - 2♣ - 2♦ - 3♦. Axxx, Kxxx, Kxx, xx feels right.

Over a major, I'd say the jump cue is a splinter with GF hand in the other major.

[inquiry]

Jump que bid over a minor with both majors and invite is wasted. This is what a cue-bid is for... some suit, generally 4 cards, and 11+ hcp, no clear direction. Two four card majors and enough to invite at the three level to the four level is perfect for this kind of hand. You can cue-bid and then raise partner. The one exception is where opener raises himself over your normal cue-bid. Strong hands you can bid four of the minor to force pick at four level if you like.

A much better use for the jump cue-bid over minor is "this is my darn suit" or "bid 3NT with a stopper". The bid 3NT with a stopper is based upon running something (usually the other minor). I am not fond of the "this is my suit" bid, if I really have that suit good enough to contract for 9 tricks, I will try for just 7 by passing. That leaves some kind of two suiter. I still go with the cue-bid with no clear direction and enough to be forcing at the three level. So, for me, it is a 3NT stopper look.

To make life easy, I have the same agreement after 1M=X=P=3M (same major)

Ben

[HeartA]

Agree with Ben. Over a minor, jump cue-bid means either means this is my suit, or another running minor asking stopper in the bid minor. I prefer the first usage. To have another good minor, I can cue-bid at 2 level and then bid my minor at 3 level.

In short, (1m)-x-(p)-3m, natural, good suit. (1M)-x-(p)-3M, asking pd to bid 3NT with stopper(s).

[HeartA]

Jlall, on Apr 12 2005, 01:14 PM, said:

how can the jump cue be natural? You could defend that suit at the 1 level Xed...

Opps can run away and find a good fit (my short suit).

[Rebound]

I agree with Ben in that I would treat it as a stopper ask whether over a minor or a major since it is somewhat consistant with the west coast cue that I play with my regular partners.