[hrothgar]

Whackojacko is up by 4 after our first 16 boards

http://webutil.bridg...1055&u=hrothgar

The biggest swing of the session occured on a hand where I made a conservative pass and Wacko choose to invite, racking up a nice +10 IMPs

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[Vampyr]

 ovncylmz, on 2016-September-01, 14:40, said:

I think he should play even if it is irrelevant for him at this point, because the differential is important in seedings. Not making a bracket is a bad idea because of such reasons, now we have to figure out an adjustment for the second set to seed zebutin.

I do not think it is reasonable to have a policy that a contestant must play when he has no further interest in the event.

And comparing the size of the differential is meaningless anyway since the boards are not the same.

[olegru]

olegru vs diana_eva
1st set 16 for diana_eva http://webutil.bridg...610649&u=olegru
2st set 0 http://webutil.bridg...693592&u=olegru


diana_eva won by 16. Congrats!

[frank0]

 smerriman, on 2016-August-29, 19:22, said:

Yep, sorry for the lack of foresight here. I hadn't wanted to impose a strict deadline for reasons similar to what diana_eva and Phil mentioned above, but had assumed players would be able to at least make contact via the forum if they'd be temporarily unavailable rather than disappear entirely. Things don't work out like that in real life!For the second round let's make it a strict 1 week time limit - though it's likely to be a lot quicker regardless. If you know you might be away from BBO long enough to miss a 3 day challenge window, let your opponent know. If a challenge expires, the onus is on the person who did not accept to complete two matches within the week - or they will forfeit. If you can't manage to fit in two challenges in a week, this probably isn't something you should have entered.Will allow olegru + gordontd another day to complete their match - otherwise, for the purposes of getting the second round up and running quickly, I'll give the benefit of the doubt to olegru due to the large margin in the first round.ovnclymz - will just keep the draw as mentioned originally rather than change things now - that's a possibility for later events, but the difference is pretty minor.

 ovncylmz, on 2016-September-01, 14:40, said:

I think he should play even if it is irrelevant for him at this point, because the differential is important in seedings. Not making a bracket is a bad idea because of such reasons, now we have to figure out an adjustment for the second set to seed zebutin.

 eagles123, on 2016-September-01, 14:45, said:

ok good point, i will play 2nd set

 ovncylmz, on 2016-September-01, 16:43, said:

what do u guys think about 48 boards for QF and SF and 64 boards for final?

 Vampyr, on 2016-September-01, 19:35, said:

I do not think it is reasonable to have a policy that a contestant must play when he has no further interest in the event.And comparing the size of the differential is meaningless anyway since the boards are not the same.

I create another thread to discuss the format of future events, from now on let's keep this place only for results reporting and hands discussion.

[frank0]

Partial Results so far

Phil vs manudude03
ovncylmz(+45) vs smerriman
olegru vs diana_eva(+16)
dadim(+81) vs barmar
zebutin(+65, not complete) vs eagles123
jeffford76(+17) vs frank0
broze vs nullve
hrothgar vs wackojack(+4, not complete)

[jeffford76]

 ovncylmz, on 2016-September-01, 14:40, said:

I think he should play even if it is irrelevant for him at this point, because the differential is important in seedings. Not making a bracket is a bad idea because of such reasons, now we have to figure out an adjustment for the second set to seed zebutin.

If someone does only play half, it seems reasonable to just double the first half margin. It's not like the victory margin playing completely different hands is all that meaningful anyway.

[ovncylmz]

 Vampyr, on 2016-September-01, 19:35, said:

I do not think it is reasonable to have a policy that a contestant must play when he has no further interest in the event.

And comparing the size of the differential is meaningless anyway since the boards are not the same.

Yes but unfortunately differential is the criteria (this is the rule for this event) for pairings in the next round.

[Wackojack]

I have just made the 2nd 16 challenge against hrothgar. Now just leaving for Ireland for the weekend and will not be available to complete the 2nd 16 until at best late monday which it says is beyond the expiry stated.

[Phil]

Manu...dude(03)...youve had a challenge out there for a few days now and it expires tomorrow.

[hrothgar]

 Wackojack, on 2016-September-02, 03:05, said:

I have just made the 2nd 16 challenge against hrothgar. Now just leaving for Ireland for the weekend and will not be available to complete the 2nd 16 until at best late monday which it says is beyond the expiry stated.

Wish I had known that before I played out all the hands...

[ovncylmz]

 hrothgar, on 2016-September-02, 17:46, said:

Wish I had known that before I played out all the hands...

Guys, why don't you just bbo chat with your opponent (or leave him a message instead of writing here!?) and take care of these problems? If somebody knows wackojack, maybe he/she can contact via phone/email/facebook or something and make him play. Otherwise, it will not be nice - he should have canceled the challenge.

[ovncylmz]

 Phil, on 2016-September-02, 17:03, said:

Manu...dude(03)...youve had a challenge out there for a few days now and it expires tomorrow.

If it is still yellow, why don't you cancel and resend?

[ovncylmz]

Starting from quarter finals, I strongly suggest everyone to leave his/her opponent his/her email address via BBO messaging as the first thing. With this, players will be able to contact each other a lot easier - also I suggest everyone to communicate his/her opponent via BBO, not here:)

One final note, it is always a great idea to cancel and send challenge again if the challenge you sent is still yellow.

[hrothgar]

 ovncylmz, on 2016-September-02, 22:25, said:

Guys, why don't you just bbo chat with your opponent (or leave him a message instead of writing here!?) and take care of these problems? If somebody knows wackojack, maybe he/she can contact via phone/email/facebook or something and make him play. Otherwise, it will not be nice - he should have canceled the challenge.

I did chat with Wackojacko.

I said that I was happy to play challenges anytime between Friday and Monday.
This one showed up on Friday morning, so I played it...

[1eyedjack]

I can understand that a challenge should lapse by default if not accepted within (say) 3 days (or some arbitrary alternative). But it also seems reasonable that the limit be extended when a challenge is accepted, and possibly extended again when one player has completed the set. There may also be a case for the players to have some control over it. Perhaps something for the developers to consider.

[Phil]

 ovncylmz, on 2016-September-02, 22:34, said:

If it is still yellow, why don't you cancel and resend?

I'm out of pocket now until Tuesday.

[ovncylmz]

 Phil, on 2016-September-03, 12:25, said:

I'm out of pocket now until Tuesday.

Did you cancel the challenge? Btw, manudude03 maybe didn't even know that the tourney continues for him..

Manudude03 & wackojack -- This whole thing becomes messy, if someone is not able to play 16 BBO boards in 3 days or 32 BBO boards in a week (each set takes possibly less than 45 minutes) or does not know how to use challenge tool, then really shouldn't enter this tournament.

[phoenix214]

Doh, have not been on the forums for a while - just noticed that the challange match had been going on for a while and sadly as my opp as well had not noticed I did not see any challange notifications on bbo - doh
Anyhow good luck to all the players still alive.

[ovncylmz]

 phoenix214, on 2016-September-03, 14:29, said:

Doh, have not been on the forums for a while - just noticed that the challange match had been going on for a while and sadly as my opp as well had not noticed I did not see any challange notifications on bbo - doh
Anyhow good luck to all the players still alive.

I am willing to take the responsibility (possibly with frank0) at least for for a few of the future events, but I think that we should really have a better way to communicate than bbo forums. Maybe registration and game info sharing are made through email - when people know each other's email etc., I feel that things will be a lot more organized.

[Phil]

 ovncylmz, on 2016-September-03, 13:05, said:

Did you cancel the challenge? Btw, manudude03 maybe didn't even know that the tourney continues for him..

No I didnt. I guess I can actually play a challenge on my android if I have to but I'd rather not because I sometimes mismouse.