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robot is *not* forced to bid, does so anyway
#1
Posted 2016-May-08, 08:06
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Robot does not have to bid 2H. In fact, there is no reason to bid at all.
Robot does not have to bid 2H. In fact, there is no reason to bid at all.
#2
Posted 2016-May-11, 16:02
goffster, on 2016-May-08, 08:06, said:
http://tinyurl.com/hzdkr6o
Robot does not have to bid 2H. In fact, there is no reason to bid at all.
Robot does not have to bid 2H. In fact, there is no reason to bid at all.
Hi Goffster
Welcome you to Gib robot forum. I would answer your question, but I think your point is wrong.
- Now first let's see your hand .
- You said Robot doesn't have to bid 2♥, in fact, there is no reason to bid at all.
Ok, I would check and replay your hand to tell its exact reason.
1- It normally goes :
2- If north pass, south must regard it as cooperative penalty double.
Result : 1♠Exx= 520
Obviously, there is a very serious consequence.
Any ideas? I can try to help you.
#4
Posted 2016-May-11, 16:28
Stefan_O, on 2016-May-11, 16:12, said:
Since the XX shows 3cd ♠-support, South knows North is marked with 2 or fewer spades.
Only an idiot would take North's Pass to be for penalties.
Only an idiot would take North's Pass to be for penalties.
Very good reply.
I always remember that Stephen Tu had ever said " Gib is a kind of rigid...", that's to say Gib is a kind of loyalty model which determines Gibs' bidding are different from human.
Now I can take a real example.
Here is from 2016 USBC QF - Segment 7 of 8
So human isn't a kind of rigid model, there are many differences between Gibs and human.
#5
Posted 2016-May-11, 17:40
lycier, on 2016-May-11, 16:02, said:
- You said Robot doesn't have to bid 2♥, in fact, there is no reason to bid at all.
Ok, I would check and replay your hand to tell its exact reason.
....
2- If north pass, south must regard it as cooperative penalty double.
....
Obviously, there is a very serious consequence.
Any ideas? I can try to help you.
Ok, I would check and replay your hand to tell its exact reason.
....
2- If north pass, south must regard it as cooperative penalty double.
....
Obviously, there is a very serious consequence.
Any ideas? I can try to help you.
I would consider bidding 2♥ to be a silly bid. If doubler has 5 clubs and 4 hearts, clubs will probably play much better. You don't have a strong preference so why bid a 3 card suit that may bypass your best suit? No guarantees, but I would have bid 1NT since I've got diamonds very well stopped and scattered values.
"Cooperative penalty double"?????? Only in the GIB world where there is a hole in the bidding charts.
#8
Posted 2016-May-11, 22:40
johnu, on 2016-May-11, 17:40, said:
I would consider bidding 2♥ to be a silly bid. If doubler has 5 clubs and 4 hearts, clubs will probably play much better. You don't have a strong preference so why bid a 3 card suit that may bypass your best suit? No guarantees, but I would have bid 1NT since I've got diamonds very well stopped and scattered values.
"Cooperative penalty double"?????? Only in the GIB world where there is a hole in the bidding charts.
"Cooperative penalty double"?????? Only in the GIB world where there is a hole in the bidding charts.
LOL
Oh, my god, how could I forget the brackets on Cooperative?
Now you see I am typing it as ( Cooperative ) penalty double, I think I have " fixed " this hole in the bidding charts.
Welcome you to point out my mistakes, and share with everyone.
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