[mcphee]

A point which may have been overlooked here. Lets suggest the S hand was opened a weak 2 bid in H, would not N try for game using what ever methods they had, feature or Ogust? If we view the problem in that light N has an easy raise to 3H on the bidding shown.

[the hog]

mcphee, on Apr 8 2005, 03:07 AM, said:

A point which may have been overlooked here. Lets suggest the S hand was opened a weak 2 bid in H, would not N try for game using what ever methods they had, feature or Ogust? If we view the problem in that light N has an easy raise to 3H on the bidding shown.

This is not worth a game try opposite a nv weak 2 opening!

[Chamaco]

mcphee, on Apr 7 2005, 05:07 PM, said:

A point which may have been overlooked here. Lets suggest the S hand was opened a weak 2 bid in H, would not N try for game using what ever methods they had, feature or Ogust? If we view the problem in that light N has an easy raise to 3H on the bidding shown.

I may be wrong, but the power of South's hand, with a 6511 seems to me considerably higher than a weak 2 opener.

A good weak 2 opener is usually 8-7 losers (actually with 7 losers I tend to open often at the 1 level, but in a strong club context).
This hand is even better than that (6.5 losers) AND has 2 places to play.

So I still think the big underbid is by S, although a single raise by N would not be unreasonable.

[geller]

As a wise man once said, "It is very dangerous NOT to raise partner with a fit," and this hand seems to confirm that. The risk/reward ratio for North to raise to 3 hearts with almost perfect cards (only the queen of diamonds is wasted) appears to strongly favor the raise over the pass.

[Chamaco]

geller, on Apr 8 2005, 08:23 AM, said:

As a wise man once said, "It is very dangerous NOT to raise partner with a fit," and this hand seems to confirm that.  The risk/reward ratio for North to raise to 3 hearts with almost perfect cards (only the queen of diamonds is wasted) appears to strongly favor the raise over the pass.

True enough, a raise could be fair by N, but certainly the power of S 6511 was understated BY FAR by South, who should not even invite, but force to game on his own.

[jdulmage]

HeartA, on Apr 6 2005, 12:14 PM, said:

Scoring: IMP

Opps are silent. Bidding goes:
1♠ - 1NT
2♣ - 2♥
pass

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Who is (more) responsible for missing a good game?

Open 1NT, it will then go:

1NT - 2♦ - 2♥ - 4♥ - all pass. Enough said.

If 14 is "too weak" for ya, then open 1♠ - 1NT - 2♣ - 3♥, with 3 hearts to the King and a 14 count, you'll be happy to bid 4♥