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IMP, Vul vs Not

LHO CHO RHO You
1S pass pass 2H
3C 3S pass ?

S ------
H AK875
D KQJ7
C 8643

1. Do you agree with 2H?
2. What hand could the 3S be showing?
3. What are you going to do?

[the hog]

My first inclination was to double, but yes, I think 2H is better. Partner's 3S bid has to be a really big fit for H, but a hand not good enough to overcall.
Axxx
Qxxxx
Ax
Kx
perhaps or something similar. It is an odd bid as you have not really shown a big hand. Opposite the hand I have suggested, you have a good play for 6H. Can he be that good? Well, whatever at this stage I will co operate with 4D and see what progresses.

[pclayton]

4D. I double with this first and convert 2C to 2H. I've never considered this sequence in terms of mini-ELC, but doesn't it make sense that it shows H's and D's and a decent hand.

Over 3S, I am really hopeful about 6 if pard has any kind of club control. Pard is forcing to the 4 level opposite a balancing overcall.

[P_Marlowe]

1.) No, I would have doubled, this hand is
3-suited not 1-suited
2.) He wants me to by a gun, to shoot him.
Sorry, but whatever 3S should mean will
be ok, as long as you have it discussed.

Partner was not strong enough to react direct,
and he knows, that I simply reopend the bidding,
he cant expect a hand thats as good as mine,
for all he knows, opener may have a strong 2
suiter and I trash, so a slam try is out, definitive
out, if he has a heart raise, he should raise to 4
heart.

3.) wait for the police.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[joker_gib]

Jlall, on Mar 31 2005, 11:04 PM, said:

i bid 4D. 3S could have alot of meanings so i just describe my hand to him. 2H is fine.

I totally agree !

[Winstonm]

I think the choice of reopening bids here is actually more interesting than what to do over 3S. The spade void argues strongly against a reopening double, as I have no spade to lead through if partner passes for penalty. Also, the missing spade in my hand may well be in dummy, giving them a 7 or 8 card fit and Law protection.

Although I'd prefer a 6th heart for the 2-heart bid, I think this is a case where the bid is justified on 5 as you describe the strength of your reopening in 1 bid as well as indicating the suit in which game is most likely.

I would think now that the 3S bid would indicate a strong limit raise type hand, something like xxxx, QJxx, Ax, Axxx and I would cooperate with a 4D bid.

WinstonM

[hotShot]

The only thing i can think of, that would justify a 3♠ bid from partner here, is that he holds good and long ♠. Opener "stole" his bid. Maybe he is trying to uncover a psyche. Maybe he wants us to bid 3NT with ♣ hold. But he knows that we can play something at the 4 level. So i bid 4♦ a suit with high quality.
I'll see what partner will tell me after that.

[Walddk]

1. Yes. I can double later if LHO rebids 2♠. A premature double may bury the heart suit.

2. Partner has a great fit for hearts, but not strong enough to act over 1♠.

3. 4♦. I have much better cards than partner can expect for my balancing overcall.

Roland

[Fluffy]

I would double.

what is 3♠?, my first though was that he had a strong had with 5 ♠, but he would bid 3NT if he had that, I couldn't see any chance of slam for 2 limited to 15 hands, but then, 3♠ has to be something, and it might be a slam try in ♥.

so stop in 4♥ now you can.

[arrows]

OK, now it's time to show your faith.

Let's say you bid 4♦ (seems the majority choice), your partner
bid 4♠. (Both Opps pass in between), Now what are you going to
do?

Or even further, When in such kind of situtation, you are facing to
something you totally have no clue (in regard to your agreement).
what approach do you take at the table?

[the hog]

Bid 5H. What else? Pd has shown his A of S and 5H now denies a C control. Its up to him to bid 6H with a suitable hand.

[Walddk]

He can't have been drinking diet coke all day. A hand that could not come in over 1♠ can now cue the opening suit twice. Oh well, let me trust him then. He has something like

Axxx
Qxxxx
x
AQx

The club finesse is likely to be on, so I bid 6♥. If he has less than that, I will finish the hand and make this comment:

"Sorry all, I have an urgent appointment at my dentist's. Will me more fun than this"

Roland

[Walddk]

The_Hog, on Apr 1 2005, 04:40 PM, said:

Bid 5H. What else? Pd has shown his A of S and 5H now denies a C control. Its up to him to bid 6H with a suitable hand.

I disagree. My 4♦ denied a club control, so if he doesn't have one, it is his problem, and I will look forward to seeing my dentist.

Roland

[Winstonm]

To answer your question: what would I do at the table with no agreement - I simply follow majority norms in that the cue bid needs to be reserved for support hands where the strength can be shown no other way. Hence, you have noticed everyone here bidding 4D and assuming a heart raise.

If this has been a first seat psyche, he won this time but such action will find him in the future hopelessly searching for partners and good results.

WinstonM

[P_Marlowe]

arrows, on Apr 1 2005, 04:33 PM, said:

OK, now it's time to show your faith.

Let's say you bid 4♦ (seems the majority choice), your partner
bid 4♠. (Both Opps pass in between), Now what are you going to
do?

Or even further, When in such kind of situtation,  you are facing to
something you totally have no clue (in regard to your agreement).
what approach do you take at the table?

5H.

Play it save, especially playing IMPs.

Of course it helps to have the partnership
aggreement, that the partnership tries to
avoid making dubious bids.

Helping as well, does the partnership aggreement,
that we let it happen, that ocassional the opponents
bluff us, we take their bid on face value, as long as
it is not 100% clear for both sides.


With kind regards
Marlowe

[olegru]

arrows, on Mar 31 2005, 09:25 PM, said:

IMP, Vul vs Not

LHO CHO RHO You
1S pass pass 2H
3C 3S pass ?

S ------
H AK875
D KQJ7
C 8643

1. Do you agree with 2H?
2. What hand could the 3S be showing?
3. What are you going to do?

1. I would prefer dbl, because I want still have minors in the picture, but it is close choice.
2. I expecting to find opening hand with spades and no club's stoper. It should not denied support for ♥, but I don't think it is promised.
3. 4♦, what else?

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If partner will reply 4 ♠ it should be control bid with agreed ♦. But I do have a rebid problem now. Make a prey and bid 6♦.

[whereagles]

I bid 4H. A bit of a mastermind bid, but I really don't think there can be a slam here...