[olegru]

All vul.
Indi

♠ AQ105
♥ J85432
♦ 102
♣ 7

What would you bid after two passes?

[Echognome]

I vote pass. I know it's great to open light in 3rd seat, but I don't really want a heart lead and a spade opening (playing 5 card majors) might lead to partner bouncing us to high in the auction. I'm happy if they bid to a major suit game and if they go into 3NT, partner is likely to lead a major anyway. Why stick my neck on the chopping block?

[Walddk]

Pass, I play that as non-forcing

Holding the majors, there is a good chance that I can come in later, unless the opps are sky high before my next turn.

Roland

[joker_gib]

Pass

Not a good suit for 2♥ and I have 4♠ so I should probably come in the bidding later

Alain

[whereagles]

Depending on tactical considerations, I might try 1♠ or pass.

[cherdano]

Jlall, on Mar 31 2005, 07:27 PM, said:

ill crank it for 2H.

If it shows 4-4 in the majors, sure! If its Flannery, you might be overstating the heart suit already. If it's....no certainly can't be! (I confess I might bid it, too)

[inquiry]

Pass... what is the problem?

If you feel like you have to open 2H/3H/1S on this hand to create action, maybe you should spend some time learning how to play the cards better. A 2H/1S/3H opening bid here is surely likely to create a swing, but one you can no longer control due to you superior card play, nor due to application of skilled bidding inference to side rather or not to compete later. Rather, you will win (or lose) based upon the joker you threw into the auction with the bid.

Now if it is late in a team game and you are behind, ok, you need a swing. A flattish hand will not help, by all means, try to create one. Or if this is last hand of a matchpoint thing and you need one more board to win or place very high? At least you have a reasonable expectation of creating a swing with some unusual activity here. But as for run of the mill bridge? Just do the normal thing here.

I don't mind opening 2H with 6H and 4S, especially in third chair. IF the major honors were reversed (AQ of hearts, Jack of spades), ok 2h would be fine.

Ben

[awm]

I'd open 1♥ here. I'm concerned that opponents may be about to pass this hand out, and despite my lack of points it's probably our hand (fit in the majors) if this is the case. If we end up defending notrump, I really do want a heart lead -- even though my suit is poor it's an eventual source of tricks with the spades as entries. I definitely don't want partner to lead the unbid minor. The opening bid also sometimes misleads opponents about the location of values (especially the heart values) and might cause them to mis-evaluate their hands.

Of course, I'd never consider bidding on this hand in first or second chair.

[Fluffy]

I open 2♦ to show both majors, would open 2♥ otherwise.

[hrothgar]

Playing in an individual, I'd pass. Too many ways to go wrong opening (suggesting the wrong lead, placing cards for declarer, missing a fit...)

[olegru]

Actually this hand has some sad story. Probably for another discussion - that one (http://forums.bridge...?showtopic=6806).
It was one of the last boards and I was really need a good score to win a tournament.
I openned 1♥. Not everyones choice, but, as we can see from this poll, I am not just one who chose it.
If Partner has ♥ support my hand much better than it looks now, if he has good spades - too. If Partner doesn't have majors, he, probably, will not jump too high.
Bidding follows:
dbl - 1NT - 4♠ - pass - pass - dbl.
Third best contract (my Partner had Kx spades), unlucky distribution, very average declarer play - down 3. 800.
Top? - Not!
Ave- assigned by director, who explained me, I must pass with 7 points or less.

[Walddk]

awm, on Mar 31 2005, 02:18 PM, said:

I'd open 1♥ here. I'm concerned that opponents may be about to pass this hand out

I don't think you should be seriously worried about that. You have a 7 count, and 2 players already passed. Well, the remaining hcp could be divided 11, 11, 11, but that is not even good enough.

LHO must also be balanced if he is to pass.

Roland

[mike777]

1H

Hope this has most preempt effect. P will not have 11 or shapely 10.

[Walddk]

olegru, on Mar 31 2005, 03:18 PM, said:

Ave- assigned by director, who explained me, I must pass with 7 points or less.

Unless it was clearly stated on the table note, we have another example of an incompetent TD.

"I must pass with 7 points or less".

This is not even a psyche. A light opening perhaps, but a psyche? Far from it!

Roland

[EricK]

olegru, on Mar 31 2005, 08:18 PM, said:

Actually this hand has some sad story. Probably for another discussion - that one (http://forums.bridge...?showtopic=6806).
It was one of the last boards and I was really need a good score to win a tournament.
I openned 1♥. Not everyones choice, but, as we can see from this poll, I am not just one who chose it.
If Partner has ♥ support my hand much better than it looks now, if he has good spades - too. If Partner doesn't have majors, he, probably, will not jump too high.
Bidding follows:
dbl - 1NT - 4♠ - pass - pass - dbl.
Third best contract (my Partner had Kx spades), unlucky distribution, very average declarer play - down 3. 800.
Top? - Not!
Ave- assigned by director, who explained me, I must pass with 7 points or less.

This is a ridiculous decision!

Your opponents were somehow damaged because you had a weaker hand than you promised.

If you had had a few more points and they had gone a further one down it would have been OK I suppose!

Eric

[luke warm]

isn't there an acbl rule that says you have to have 8+ hcp to open 1 of a suit? maybe i'm thinking of something else... anyway, i'd pass this had

[Free]

Imo it's a very clear pass! If it was with the minors, I might open 1NT from time to time.

[helene_t]

luke warm, on Apr 1 2005, 03:06 AM, said:

isn't there an acbl rule that says you have to have 8+ hcp to open 1 of a suit? maybe i'm thinking of something else... anyway, i'd pass this had

The WBF definition of a HUM includes the agreement that an opening of one in a suit may be based on "A king less than average strength". Points schmoints, this is an acceptable opening.

Of course, when playing with a pick-up partner it can't be a problem anyway. But this is probably all irrelevant since the tournament rules rarely prohibit HUMs.

[luke warm]

well i'd still pass, but mainly i'm wondering (in acbl land) what the director would say if i did open it and she was called