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Drury mess-up

#1 User is offline   chasetb 

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Posted 2015-May-02, 01:28

I like how GIB plays Drury now, but why can't GIB bid 2 on this hand, showing 4+? I would immediately bid 2 to play, and we could be in a making contract instead of going down in 4.

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Posted 2015-May-02, 10:22

Looks to me like the most proximate cause was accepting the invite with a sub-minimum.
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Posted 2015-May-02, 14:13

View PostTylerE, on 2015-May-02, 10:22, said:

Looks to me like the most proximate cause was accepting the invite with a sub-minimum.
This is why I frequently only show one hand when I post.

The question still is "when would North bid 2 rather than 2?"
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Posted 2015-May-03, 15:49

Looks like GIB is playing plain old non-reverse Drury. So, 2 would be a game try of some sort or possibly a non-existant bid, and 2 would show a (sub)minimum.
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Posted 2015-May-03, 19:38

That I agree. But bb62 question remains unanswered. 2d and 2h both show more than submin, distinguished by 2h showing a heart suit. Rightly or wrongly gib judged this hand better than submin (2d). Why then conceal the hearts?
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Posted 2015-May-03, 20:29

I don't think that's true. In some really oldschool drury texts, the response is always either 2d or 2opener's suit.
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Posted 2015-May-04, 01:18

Thing is, I have been in North's seat opposite GIB in this situation in the past, since Drury was added, and have moused over 2H. While I may not have selected the bid, it definitely shows 4+ hearts and better than min. I recall that it shows something like 13-14 total points, ie as per 2D in strength.
Psych (pron. saik): A gross and deliberate misstatement of honour strength and/or suit length. Expressly permitted under Law 73E but forbidden contrary to that law by Acol club tourneys.

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Masterminding (pron. mPosted ImagesPosted ImagetPosted Imager-mPosted ImagendPosted Imageing) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.

"Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
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Posted 2015-May-04, 01:48


Slightly surprised not to end up in Hearts, but perhaps just as well. Both majors make 8 at D/D, and sneaking a 9th may be tougher in Hearts.
Psych (pron. saik): A gross and deliberate misstatement of honour strength and/or suit length. Expressly permitted under Law 73E but forbidden contrary to that law by Acol club tourneys.

Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. mPosted ImagesPosted ImagetPosted Imager-mPosted ImagendPosted Imageing) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.

"Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"

"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
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