[Wackojack]

Scoring: MP

You are South. LHO passes, pd opens 1♥, RHO overcalls 1♠. what is your bid?

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I would like to return to possible further decisions after seeing all your replies if I may.

Thanks

[Gerben42]

4♥ might be wrong with 3 spades but I still bid it.

[Wiste1]

Same here, 4♥



Wiste

[Walddk]

4♥ and respect any decision partner may take after that. I have my bid.

Roland

[Free]

Either 4♥ or pass...

[TimG]

4♥. I I was forced to select a second choice, it would be 1NT (in hopes of convincing the opponents they shouldn't compete over some number of hearts later in the auction).

[luke warm]

4♥ ... i don't like 1nt in case it's passed out... 3♥ might be better, but it invites a double if later i bid 4

[whereagles]

Hum.. tempting to bid 4C, but that should promise a bit more at this vulnerability. In any case I have 3 spades, so it's not automatic opps will bid to 4S. That makes it less necessary to show a lead. 4H should be fine then.

[pclayton]

4♥

yikes

Bid your hand and be done with it. Let pard in on the decision. Yeah I can see the vulnerability and they probably have a cheap sac - so?

[bridgeboy]

4H. No real problem for now

[hotShot]

4♥
THere is a good chance that opps have a ♠ fit, now they won't find it.
My ♣ are well placed behind the bidding opp or at well to partners.

Worst case is if:
- partner holds great ♦
- opps have no ♠ fit
- my LHO holds the ♣.
We might loose 3♠ and 2♣ than.
But it's better to bid now, or else pass forever.

[Free]

hotShot, on Mar 13 2005, 06:59 PM, said:

THere is a good chance that opps have a ♠ fit, now they won't find it.
~snip~

You can't be serious here, come on...

[inquiry]

Words from the loyal opposition.

3♥

Why 3♥. Two reasons. First, yes we are vul and they are not. LOTT says to bid 4♥, common sense suggest that might be much too much at this vul. Second, we are vul and they are not, partner will know that a 3♥ bid shows more than it usually does here. If 4♥ is right, he will bid it about 80% of the time. If 4♥ is wrong, we will avoid it 100% of the time.

Change this to both vul or anytime we are not vul, I will bid 4♥ instead of 3♥'s. As usual, I am out on a limb by myself.

Ben

[hotShot]

Free, on Mar 13 2005, 06:01 PM, said:

hotShot, on Mar 13 2005, 06:59 PM, said:

There is a good chance that opps have a ♠ fit, now they won't find it.
~snip~

You can't be serious here, come on...

A passed hand opposite a 1 level overcall, will now bid 4♠?

Who's kidding?

Ben:
You what to quit a full game vul @ IMPs ?
So you think it's less than 38%, but perhaps your partner likes light openings too.

[inquiry]

hotShot, on Mar 13 2005, 02:10 PM, said:

Ben:
You what to quit a full game vul @ IMPs ?
So you think it's less than 38%, but perhaps your partner likes light openings too.

Scoring: MP
^^^^^^^^

My partner knows I look at condition of contest. You would score better in the long run if you paid attention to this too. At imps, I would take a shot at 4♥ too.. .you can lose at MP even if they double if you go down two in 4♥

Ben

[EricK]

Ben, you are not out on a limb by yourself. I would bid 3♥ in this situation as well (whether you actually want me on a limb with you is another matter altogether, of course).

I doubt 4♥ is making. We might defeat any contract they get to. I don't see why I should risk -200 or -500 just to show I know LOTT and can count to ten.

Eric

[inquiry]

EricK, on Mar 13 2005, 02:33 PM, said:

Ben, you are not out on a limb by yourself. I would bid 3♥ in this situation as well (whether you actually want me on a limb with you is another matter altogether, of course).

I doubt 4♥ is making. We might defeat any contract they get to. I don't see why I should risk -200 or -500 just to show I know LOTT and can count to ten.

Eric

Glad to have you with me... at the time I posted my bid, the vote was 10-0 for 4♥, well with one maybe pass. But somehow i am certain we are not the only people who don't follow LOTT blindly.... glad to have you out here with me.

Ben

[Wackojack]

Wackojack, on Mar 13 2005, 08:45 AM, said:

Scoring: MP

You are South. LHO passes, pd opens 1♥, RHO overcalls 1♠.  what is your bid?

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I would like to return to possible further decisions after seeing all your replies if I may.

OK clearly the majority decision is 4♥, other mentions were 3♥ and pass and 1NT.

This is how the bidding could go in each case:
1. After 4♥, LHO 4♠, pd 5♦, RHO 5♠. Your bid?

2. After 3♥, LHO 3♠, pd 4♦, RHO 4♠. Your bid?

3. After pass, LHO 2♠, pd 3♦, RHO 3♠,
you 4♥?, LHO 4♠, pd pass, RHO pass, Your bid?

4. After 1NT probably the same as after pass.

It looks to me like you would have to pass in each case. So after 3 and 4 your partner has no further say. After 1 and 2 partner has the choice of double, pass or bid on. An advantage?

Something I forgot to mention was that pd 1♥ opener could be a 4-carder, but only when holding 15+HCP and either 3 or 4 spades. I don't suppose that would make a difference when responding to assuming at least 5.

[han]

Even at these colors I think that 3H is an underbid, you have far too much playing strength. I agree that it is not always right to jump to the law level, but with this shape it would be hard to convince me not to.

Partner's 5D call clearly invites me to more action, even though I have preempted. The stiff diamond makes the double clearcut imo. If 5D was merely lead directing then I'm still happy to double.

[inquiry]

1. After 4♥, LHO 4♠, pd 5♦, RHO 5♠. Your bid?

DOUBLE. Pass would be forcing, and i overbid already with 4♥, and with three spades and values in clubs, with partner having diamond values (and presumably no club ace), what else?

2. After 3♥, LHO 3♠, pd 4♦, RHO 4♠. Your bid?

Partner's 4♦ was to set defense and describe hand in case they bid 4♠. They did bid 4♠, so now I double and lead a diamond.

3. After pass, LHO 2♠, pd 3♦, RHO 3♠,
you 4♥?, LHO 4♠, pd pass, RHO pass, Your bid?

Pass is crazy, so I abstain. 3♦ is a second suit, looking for a place to play... so you have blinder on now (and when you bid passed).

4. After 1NT probably the same as after pass.

I abstain, because as bad as pass is, 1NT is even worse.