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#1 User is offline   uva72uva72 

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Posted 2015-February-10, 13:18

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I was clearly mistaken in my understanding that THE LAW would no longer be implemented in this silly fashion - a flat hand opposite a 4th hand opener with silent opponents jumping to the 4 level. I'd be astonished if 1 were not the overwhelming favorite for a 4th position opening bid in any forum - particularly given that Drury is available. In BBO, though, you have to open this hand with a sub-minimum 1NT with 2 suits unstopped or the fiendishly clever 1 to avoid Scylla (West's take-out double) and Charybdis (North's suicide leap). Or there's the ever-popular pass-out-the-14-count-to-avoid-getting-hung-by-the-robot, which gained 1.6 IMPs over my decision to open.
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Posted 2015-February-10, 13:45

I kind of sympathise with your main point, although to open a 5 card suit 1H opener on a 4 card suit and then to complain that someone else who "psychs" a 1N or 1D opener gets a result sounds a bit sour grapey, particularly when the substance of your objection relies on the application of total tricks.
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Posted 2015-February-10, 13:59

View Post1eyedjack, on 2015-February-10, 13:45, said:

I kind of sympathise with your main point, although to open a 5 card suit 1H opener on a 4 card suit and then to complain that someone else who "psychs" a 1N or 1D opener gets a result sounds a bit sour grapey, particularly when the substance of your objection relies on the application of total tricks.
I used to play 4-card majors and was happy with it but have come around to 5-card majors always. Playing 4-card majors responder can give you some leeway, but playing mostly 5-card you end up in bad spots opening a 4-card suit because partner will be assuming 5.





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Posted 2015-February-10, 16:26

Well, knowing now that the implementation of the law of total tricks has not been adjusted, I will have to factor that in in deciding whether to open a 4-card major in 4th seat.

And yes, I was irked at the results. At matchpoints, one person getting a superior result is a blip, since there are 11 other equally-important boards on which to catch up. At IMP pairs, it's the degree of difference that counts and one board can have a disproportionate impact on the result of the set. This was a relatively low-scoring set and the pointless jump to 4 cost more than 5.5 IMPs on this hand, which could not be recovered.

But the point of posting was to report that this issue has not been successfully addressed.
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Posted 2015-February-10, 17:10

View Postuva72uva72, on 2015-February-10, 16:26, said:

Well, knowing now that the implementation of the law of total tricks has not been adjusted, I will have to factor that in in deciding whether to open a 4-card major in 4th seat.

And yes, I was irked at the results. At matchpoints, one person getting a superior result is a blip, since there are 11 other equally-important boards on which to catch up. At IMP pairs, it's the degree of difference that counts and one board can have a disproportionate impact on the result of the set. This was a relatively low-scoring set and the pointless jump to 4 cost more than 5.5 IMPs on this hand, which could not be recovered.

But the point of posting was to report that this issue has not been successfully addressed.


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You get to psyche if you want, but if it blows up in your face the one thing you don't get to do is bitch about partner's followup bidding...
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Posted 2015-February-10, 18:32

I don't really have that much of a problem with the robot jumping to 4 opposite 3rd/4th seat opener with 5 trumps - just that it ought to have a singleton or void, not a 5332. 3H ought to show this type of hand when drury is in effect.

Still down 1 on best defense, but I think it's a lot to expect to be able to consistently buy the contract for 2H without the opps finding a balance.
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