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To Raise or not to Raise

Poll: Do you raise? (26 member(s) have cast votes)

Do you raise?

  1. Pass (7 votes [26.92%])

    Percentage of vote: 26.92%

  2. 2S (19 votes [73.08%])

    Percentage of vote: 73.08%

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#1 User is offline   Cascade 

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Posted 2005-March-02, 02:37

If you raised how much weaker before you pass?

If you passed how much stronger before you bid?
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Posted 2005-March-02, 02:41

hmm, 10.5 loser hand.
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Posted 2005-March-02, 04:04

I raise. I have the fit and the points, so I won't mind the flatness and the abundance of losers. For me to pass you'll have to replace HA with HK, or CQ with CJ, or two of 10's with x's.
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Posted 2005-March-02, 04:08

Borderline, given pard opened 3rd seat. But I think I bid. If something, I shut out the red suits...
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Posted 2005-March-02, 06:16

Support, otherwise my partner thinks I'm short... 2-level is safe enough usually.
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Posted 2005-March-02, 06:55

With K of H Q of clubs I raise
With K of H J of clubs I pass
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Posted 2005-March-02, 06:57

2♠, you have already limited yourself so strong raises are also limited.
I pass if the Q♣ is a 10.
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Posted 2005-March-02, 07:01

Playing a 5 card M system I cannot understand how anyone could find a pass.

Playing a 4 card M system, Id pass as this hand has no ruffing values and the S support is poor. With the same shape and Qxx of S instead of C, again a raise is automatic.
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Posted 2005-March-02, 10:00

Well you might not consider anything other than 2♠, but I certainly do. My distribution is bad, my Offensive to Defensive Ratio is slanted towards defensive. Partner opened in third chair, and maybe lighter than normal. So playing normal 2/1 GF without frills, I would pass.

Of course, I like some frills, and if I have transfer advances on heres, such that 2♥ here by me show "solid raise" to 2♠, and 2♠ by me is "weak raise", the I would bid 2♠.

Notice playing 5 card majors, the LAW probably dictates a 2♠ raise. And I am not overly concerned about 2♠ getting punished (it might be), my concern that when I bid 2♠ partner might not be in on the joke and bid again getting us much to high on a nothing hand. With transfer advances, he (and the opponents) already are in on my "joke" raise to 2♠ so we should be able to avoid going any higher than 2♠ when it is wrong to do so.

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Posted 2005-March-02, 11:21

In borderline cases, I generally consider my holding in partner's suit. Here, I don't want to encourage a spade lead (should LHO come to life), so I pass. Given the same strength and shape, but with a higher honor in partner's suit, I would raise.

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Posted 2005-March-02, 17:29

i'd bid 2S and give serious thought to doubling 3C, if rho bid it.. the ♥A is a beautiful card... strangely enough i'd be more likely to pass if the ace was in spades
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Posted 2005-March-03, 06:35

Pass, ,I would raise if I didn't had 4333 or I had a J somewhere.
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