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If playing 2/1 GF you may have lost the advantage if 4th suit is supposed to be a bid in 4th suit, because it takes up too much room! Are you confused? Let me explain:
1♠-2♣
2♥- ?
Is 3♦ 4th suit for you now? That's not very economical, is it? What about always letting the cheapest suit be 4th suit? An interesting idea developed by my two assistants at the bridge centre, Danish internationals Søren Christiansen and Morten Andersen.
So 2♠ on the auction above is 4th suit! And 3♦ would be natural, often 5-6 in the minors.
Now, what does responder do if he actually has 3-card support for spades? Their concept reads:
Jump to 3♠ with 15-17. Bid 2♠ (4th suit) with 12-14 or 18+ and clarify later.
What is opener supposed to do over 2♠ as 4th suit? Just treat it as a normal 4th suit. 2NT = diamond stopper (extras), 3♣ = natural, 3♥ = 5-5 in the majors, 3♠ = 6-4, 3NT = diamond stopper (minimum) and .......
3♦ = 5th suit! No descriptive bid available, typically 5-4-2-2 or 5-4-3-1 without a diamond stopper.
How does this sound to you? I haven't seen it before and find it very interesting, and first of all playable.
Roland
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4th suit in 2/1 ... and 5th suit even!
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Posted 2005-March-01, 09:58
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Posted 2005-March-01, 13:31
Walddk, on Mar 1 2005, 03:58 PM, said:
If playing 2/1 GF you may have lost the advantage if 4th suit is supposed to be a bid in 4th suit, because it takes up too much room! Are you confused? Let me explain:
1♠-2♣
2♥- ?
Is 3♦ 4th suit for you now? That's not very economical, is it? What about always letting the cheapest suit be 4th suit? An interesting idea developed by my two assistants at the bridge centre, Danish internationals Søren Christiansen and Morten Andersen.
So 2♠ on the auction above is 4th suit! And 3♦ would be natural, often 5-6 in the minors.
Now, what does responder do if he actually has 3-card support for spades? Their concept reads:
Jump to 3♠ with 15-17. Bid 2♠ (4th suit) with 12-14 or 18+ and clarify later.
What is opener supposed to do over 2♠ as 4th suit? Just treat it as a normal 4th suit. 2NT = diamond stopper (extras), 3♣ = natural, 3♥ = 5-5 in the majors, 3♠ = 6-4, 3NT = diamond stopper (minimum) and .......
3♦ = 5th suit! No descriptive bid available, typically 5-4-2-2 or 5-4-3-1 without a diamond stopper.
How does this sound to you? I haven't seen it before and find it very interesting, and first of all playable.
Roland
1♠-2♣
2♥- ?
Is 3♦ 4th suit for you now? That's not very economical, is it? What about always letting the cheapest suit be 4th suit? An interesting idea developed by my two assistants at the bridge centre, Danish internationals Søren Christiansen and Morten Andersen.
So 2♠ on the auction above is 4th suit! And 3♦ would be natural, often 5-6 in the minors.
Now, what does responder do if he actually has 3-card support for spades? Their concept reads:
Jump to 3♠ with 15-17. Bid 2♠ (4th suit) with 12-14 or 18+ and clarify later.
What is opener supposed to do over 2♠ as 4th suit? Just treat it as a normal 4th suit. 2NT = diamond stopper (extras), 3♣ = natural, 3♥ = 5-5 in the majors, 3♠ = 6-4, 3NT = diamond stopper (minimum) and .......
3♦ = 5th suit! No descriptive bid available, typically 5-4-2-2 or 5-4-3-1 without a diamond stopper.
How does this sound to you? I haven't seen it before and find it very interesting, and first of all playable.
Roland
At first glance I think this idea has a lot of merit, but I believe I have heard of this idea before (from an article in The Bridge World entitled First Suit Forcing I believe). That is not surprising - there is a lot of reinventing of the wheel in this game.
To be maximally effective it would be best to think carefully about the followup auctions and to discuss them carefully with your regular partner.
Fred Gitelman
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