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Would you bid? what do you do?

Poll: How would you bid? (31 member(s) have cast votes)

How would you bid?

  1. Pass at MP, Pass at IMP (7 votes [22.58%])

    Percentage of vote: 22.58%

  2. 2H at MP, Pass at IMP (3 votes [9.68%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.68%

  3. Pass at MP, 2H at IMP (1 votes [3.23%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.23%

  4. 2H at both MP and IMP (20 votes [64.52%])

    Percentage of vote: 64.52%

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#1 User is offline   bridgeboy 

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  Posted 2005-February-28, 02:45

NV against Vul.

You hold:

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KT9632
A32
K2

RHO deals and opens 1NT (15-17). You play natural overcalls over their NT.
Playing with a relatively new partner, we have an agreement to play a sound style in competing.

Do you bid at Matchpoints? At IMPs?

Thanks a lot :D
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Posted 2005-February-28, 03:34

If agreement is sound over 1nt, I pass.

Otherwise I bid.
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Posted 2005-February-28, 04:01

If you give opener 16 HCP, there are 24 HCP left for the other 3, giving an average of 8 each. You hold 10 a queens worth more than the average to expect. You have a 6 card suit and your K's should be well placed.

I don't think one could qualify bidding 2♥ as unsound,at least not NV.
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Posted 2005-February-28, 04:03

2♥ always
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Posted 2005-February-28, 04:05

bridgeboy, on Feb 28 2005, 09:45 PM, said:

NV against Vul.

You hold:

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KT9632
A32
K2

RHO deals and opens 1NT (15-17). You play natural overcalls over their NT.
Playing with a relatively new partner, we have an agreement to play a sound style in competing.

Do you bid at Matchpoints? At IMPs?

Thanks a lot :)

To me B) "sound" means at LEAST an opening bid - so at IMPS and MP's I will PASS ---- ESPECIALLY as RHO shows 15-17 :D
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Posted 2005-February-28, 04:11

2H is obvious, wtp?
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Posted 2005-February-28, 05:06

2♥ is very sound, it's a 7-loser hand.

Bearmum: If they open a strong NT points you cannot wait until you have an opening bid. Besides, the Kings in this hand are almost aces (behind the strong hand)

Good playing strength, good intermediates in ♥, long enough suit. What's keeping you?
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Posted 2005-February-28, 06:10

2♥
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Posted 2005-February-28, 06:35

Gerben47, on Feb 28 2005, 11:06 AM, said:

2♥ is very sound, it's a 7-loser hand.

Bearmum: If they open a strong NT points you cannot wait until you have an opening bid. Besides, the Kings in this hand are almost aces (behind the strong hand)

Good playing strength, good intermediates in ♥, long enough suit. What's keeping you?

I dont think 2H is a very sound call. Changing Ck to HQJ i would say it is.
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Posted 2005-February-28, 06:43

I think your suit is just too ropey to bid here. Part of playing good bridge is avoiding stupid results (such as going for -1100 vs nothing) so I pass. A bid here should show either (or preferably both) a good hand or a good suit. This is neither.
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Posted 2005-February-28, 06:47

mr1303, on Feb 28 2005, 07:43 AM, said:

I think your suit is just too ropey to bid here. Part of playing good bridge is avoiding stupid results (such as going for -1100 vs nothing) so I pass. A bid here should show either (or preferably both) a good hand or a good suit. This is neither.

NV if you go for 1100 on that one I think they have slam and they are vul !! :rolleyes:
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Posted 2005-February-28, 10:08

I bid 2H imps or mp, as long as im non vul.
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Posted 2005-February-28, 15:02

i would bid
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Posted 2005-February-28, 16:16

bridgeboy, on Feb 28 2005, 03:45 AM, said:

Playing with a relatively new partner, we have an agreement to play a sound style in competing.

Do you bid at Matchpoints? At IMPs?

To me the key phrase in the scenario was you "have an agreement" with partner. Yes, left to my own devices, I would bid 2H regardless. HOWEVER, for whatever reason, I have agreed "to play a sound style in competing" with a relatively new partner. This game is all about building a partnership, and I am assuming the goal is to develop a long term partnership with this person.

So, at IMPs, I will bid 2H and justify myself later, if needed (shouldn't be necessary if this is a partner I'm thinking about keeping), but at MP I will pass, taking the short term loss for the long term gain in partnership trust, and re-discuss agreement later. :)

I felt an explanation would be nice, since I was the only one to vote this way. I will be interested to read any reactions.


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Posted 2005-February-28, 17:33

i'd bid 2H... i think it's sound, but if partner disagrees (after the round), we can discuss his definition
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Posted 2005-February-28, 22:51

2♥ at both. 100% at this vulnerability.

At equal, I'm a little nervous at IMPs, but I still make the call. I only pass this vul vs. not at IMPs.
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Posted 2005-March-01, 02:42

luke warm, on Mar 1 2005, 12:33 AM, said:

i'd bid 2H... i think it's sound, but if partner disagrees (after the round), we can discuss his definition

Ditto.
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Posted 2005-March-01, 06:46

I think "sound", as a partnership agreement, should read "constructive". In other contexts, it may mean that you don't want to go for -1100, but that's not something you need to make agreements about.

If the agreement applies to overcalls over 1NT, I would pass, but that can hardly be the case, at least not nonvulnerable at matchpoints. So I guess 2♥ is ok.
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Posted 2005-March-01, 10:47

I would over-call 2♥, imp and mp, given the favorite vulnerability. If we are vulnerable, I would pass
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