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#1 User is offline   uva72uva72 

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Posted 2014-June-24, 14:18

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I'm wondering how total points are computed. In the attached hand, the system notes attributed "7-10 total points" to North for its 3 bid. With 10 HCP, 4-card trump support with a doubleton, two Aces (including the Ace of opener's suit)and two 10s to boot, I would consider North's hand much closer to a 4 bid; and if not 4, then a mandatory 2 call. Note that 18 of 22 South players were fooled by the underbid.
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Posted 2014-June-24, 15:21

GIB is overly cautious in calculating total points. It's HCP plus 3 for a void, 2 for a singleton and 1 for a void, MINUS 1 for any suit in which it counted both HCP and shortness. So, Ax is only worth 4 total points, and tens are never considered, nor is extra length. Conversely, GIB overcounts by including points for shortness in partner's bid suit.

Edit: This description is easily accessible from either this forum or the GIB World section online...

GIB System Notes said:

HCP vs Total Points

Gib uses both old fashioned HCP (A=4, K=3, Q=2, J=1)) and “Total points” (HCP+3 for void, 2 for singleton, 1 for doubleton, but short suits containing an honor are reduced by 1 point). It will usually force to game if it thinks it has 25 Total Points between the two hands.

This post has been edited by Bbradley62: 2014-June-24, 15:38

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Posted 2014-June-24, 15:30

I don't know for sure, but I hope 4 would have been an inappropriate preemptive raise; 2 would be the strong raise.
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Posted 2014-June-25, 08:28

as the cards lie 4 makes but if split 4-2/5-1 a ruff is a danger
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