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After LHO opens 1♣ and Partner (GIB) overcall 1♠ and RHO passes, a 2♣ cuebid is described as good fit, limit or better.
It's the good fit part that bugs me. The way I play it is either I have a limit with a fit or I have an opener with or wirhout a fit (partner please describe). It'a way more flexible.
Can anyone tell me exactly what GIB plays ? Is it an unconditional fit or my way ?
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#2
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Posted 2014-June-21, 08:10
I think that it is pretty standard for the cue absolutely to guarantee 3+ card support. Happy to be overridden.
It is useful to confirm the fit without ambiguity as you have no guarantee that the opponents will remain silent.
A non-committal cue on GF hand may be valuable if you want to include weaker or limited hand types in a simple new suit response by advancer. But the most standard method, and the one that I believe GIB uses, is for a new suit by advancer to be forcing, rendering unnecessary a cue of opponent's suit on a strong misfit.
It is useful to confirm the fit without ambiguity as you have no guarantee that the opponents will remain silent.
A non-committal cue on GF hand may be valuable if you want to include weaker or limited hand types in a simple new suit response by advancer. But the most standard method, and the one that I believe GIB uses, is for a new suit by advancer to be forcing, rendering unnecessary a cue of opponent's suit on a strong misfit.
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Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. m
str-mnding) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees."Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
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Posted 2014-June-21, 08:52
The main reason the cue bid promises a fit is because the overcall itself is
so wide ranging some form of mechanism (forcing) is needed to keep the partnership
from constantly over or underbidding. The same problem exists with normal opening
bids but the range for openers is actually probably a tad smaller than for an overcall.
By playing new suit bids as forcing to at least (2n or 2 of openers overcall) you
have no problems describing a huge array of hands w/o the use of a cue bid so that is
why the cue bid has been assigned its place as promising a fit. The cue bid also allows
for the overcaller to normally use some form of HSGT for their hands that might be
interested in game and none of this is possible unless they know there is a fit:)
so wide ranging some form of mechanism (forcing) is needed to keep the partnership
from constantly over or underbidding. The same problem exists with normal opening
bids but the range for openers is actually probably a tad smaller than for an overcall.
By playing new suit bids as forcing to at least (2n or 2 of openers overcall) you
have no problems describing a huge array of hands w/o the use of a cue bid so that is
why the cue bid has been assigned its place as promising a fit. The cue bid also allows
for the overcaller to normally use some form of HSGT for their hands that might be
interested in game and none of this is possible unless they know there is a fit:)
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Posted 2014-June-21, 09:03
Thx guys. Very good points. Really appreciate !
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