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Posted 2014-June-13, 15:19



Above reflects the auction that resulted when I chose to pass the redouble of 2♣. I checked the system notes before taking that action, and to my recollection there was absolutely no distinction in definition between pass and 2♦. Yet those players who bid 2♦ at this point heard partner bid 2NT over 2♠and could choose between an excellent result (passing 2NT) and a superb result (bidding 3NT). For those who passed the redouble, it was necessary to find 2NT in the pass out seat in order to salvage the board. Only 1 of 9 passers found that action.

If North initiated Stayman in order to make an invitational raise to 2NT, why would opener's pass over the redouble (as opposed to 2♦) divert the robot from that course? Surely North is much closer to bidding 3NT over 2♠ than to passing.
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Posted 2014-June-13, 15:59

The auction didn't state what some of the bids meant, so let's ask before we get a lot of different replies.

! assume 2♣ was "any one suited hand".? Was that bid alerted?
I am unsure what double of 2♣ meant despite looking at the hand held. IT surely wasn't "stolen bid" meaning stayman by north or was it "I got clubs".
Was East's redouble alerted? I am thinking that the redouble might mean if your suit is clubs, lets play 2♣xx, but I am unsure.
Passing the redouble with South's hand says your willing to stick it out in 2♣xx but of course, the meaning might vary depending upon what all the other bids mean

Before we can assess what should happened over 2♠, having answers to the other questions seem required. But with North's hand over 2♠ if I was at all confused I would blast 3NT. The pass might have been hoping for a penalty double by south, but the way I play it a double by south would have been takeout.

There are other options for how the auction could go after 2♣, north could bid transfer to diamonds. However on this hand, South's actions are probably irrelevant, with such a good diamond suit, with a spade suit that looks as good as AK on the bidding rather than AQ, I think North just has to make the practical bid of 3NT over 2♠.
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Posted 2014-June-13, 17:52



Welcome back, Ben!
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Posted 2014-June-13, 17:53

View Postinquiry, on 2014-June-13, 15:59, said:

The auction didn't state what some of the bids meant, so let's ask before we get a lot of different replies.

! assume 2♣ was "any one suited hand".? Was that bid alerted?
I am unsure what double of 2♣ meant despite looking at the hand held. IT surely wasn't "stolen bid" meaning stayman by north or was it "I got clubs".
Was East's redouble alerted? I am thinking that the redouble might mean if your suit is clubs, lets play 2♣xx, but I am unsure.
Passing the redouble with South's hand says your willing to stick it out in 2♣xx but of course, the meaning might vary depending upon what all the other bids mean

Before we can assess what should happened over 2♠, having answers to the other questions seem required. But with North's hand over 2♠ if I was at all confused I would blast 3NT. The pass might have been hoping for a penalty double by south, but the way I play it a double by south would have been takeout.

There are other options for how the auction could go after 2♣, north could bid transfer to diamonds. However on this hand, South's actions are probably irrelevant, with such a good diamond suit, with a spade suit that looks as good as AK on the bidding rather than AQ, I think North just has to make the practical bid of 3NT over 2♠.


Ah, I see this was a robot question, I didn't realize what forum this was in.... Ok, North's double then was stayman, redouble was whatever it was. I still "blame" north not for bidding on, but robots will be robots. I seldom to never play with robots as partners, so I am not the best to suggest what to do here. I guess since you know that partner has some values for it's bid, you need to do something over 2♠. I don't have the guts to bid 2NT, but I would try a bashful double, with the robot knowing I don't have 4♥.

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