[the_dude]

Simple hand but I'm curious as to the general consensus - swiss teams, love all:

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1D is a marking time bid as we try not to bid inverted minors with these balanced hands.
2NT is 18-19 and does not deny 4cd major(s)
3C is natural and forcing
3NT is likely some 4333 ... he may still have a 4 card major as South would bid 3D looking for a major.

How close do you shave these onions? (ps: should I have bothered with the 3C call?)

[billw55]

If I was playing your system, I would have bid 4NT quantitative the second round.

If I was playing my system, I would have bid 3NT the first round.

[chasetb]

I think you should bother with the 3♣ call ONLY if partner will show some kind of shape. If partner has 5 Clubs, I am forcing to slam. As it stands, I think we owe partner one more bid, just in case partner has intermediates. Keep in mind though that(433)3♣ opposite 3334 needs at least 3 tens or a few more HCP for 6NT to have play, and 3334 opposite 3334 you might as well throw your cards in the air and curse out loud.

[ggwhiz]

billw55, on 2014-February-10, 09:32, said:

If I was playing your system, I would have bid 4NT quantitative the second round.

If I was playing my system, I would have bid 3NT the first round.

I play the same thing but the continuations IF the slam try is accepted are to show straight aces and then if we have enough bid 4 card suits up the line to backdoor a 4-4 fit or when available (ie. I opened with 2+ bullets and 5 good clubs) jump to 6 of a 5 bagger to offer a choice.

[mycroft]

billw55, on 2014-February-10, 09:32, said:

If I was playing your system, I would have bid 4NT quantitative the second round.

If I was playing my system, I would have bid 3NT the first round.

Heh. If I was playing my system, I would have bid 2NT the first round (old-fashioned GF BAL, minimum or huge).

[wyman]

I'd bid 4N. 6N is just too much imo, and I think 4C is really overstating the club situation.

Agree with 3C -- how else will you ever find 6C?

[Bbradley62]

billw55, on 2014-February-10, 09:32, said:

If I was playing my system, I would have bid 3NT the first round.

Same here. I'm curious as to what 1♣-2NT and 1♣-3NT show in OP's system.

[gszes]

The minority report---------------

Your side has btn 32 and 33 hcp you are balanced and p is balanced slam looks like a slim

chance at best. The fact that you introduced 3c should mean you have sufficient values to play

at least 5 clubs if p cannot bid 3n yet p did not get excited about this and the main reason is

probably because they are balanced.

With a big club fit and lots of controls your p would have a strong tendency to make a move toward

slam. Relax and settle in 3n making 4 or 5 and a lucky 6 now and then.

4N quant here asking p to bid slam with near max will still get you into far too many slams when p is

18+ to 19 balanced. You really need p to be a super max to have a good shot at slam and the risk vs reward

is just too great against you. P will pass most of the time and you will be fine it is when p accepts that the risk

happens.===picture p with a hand similar to AKQ Axx Qxx Axxx p has a control rich 19 and might all too easily

bid 6 assuming their dia Q is the icing on the cake yet we stand to lose 1H and 1c and maybe 2C.

[Siegmund]

Taking a lot of bids to get nowhere.

I am not enthused about all the slow exploration when I have a flat hand and am not going anywhere except notrump (provided there is a spade stopper, that is.) I would have liked an Inverted bid or a natural notrump bid a lot better on the first round. I am shocked not to see a notrump raise on the second round.

On the other hand, I AM willing to just jump to 6NT opposite an 18-19 hand. Every additional bid I make improves the chance they will find the best lead against the 6NT contract we are headed for anyway.