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#1 User is offline   MickyB 

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Posted 2014-February-11, 13:36

Q98xx jxx jxx xx

Love all imps

P-3C-X-3N
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Posted 2014-February-11, 13:58

Pass for now - risky to bid as partner may only have 3 spades and finesses are losing.
If RHO is messing about, partner will reopen and then we can bid 4.
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Posted 2014-February-11, 16:33

How large of a supply of alka seltzer do you take to each bridge session. 4S may indeed be a IMP saving sac

vs 3N. The problem is it will almost always result in a negative score and sometimes quite large. what you have

to consider is, that the opening 3c might itself have such a huge range, that 3n cannot make and 4s is going for

a number instead of a positive score. If your partnership likes to compete on low probability hands, this is a game,

go for it. Just remember that once in a while p will have a rock when they x 3c and if you are in the habit of "sac"

with junk that has a chance of being right what will you do with a hand that has some value??????

That downside alone keeps most players "honest" to a degree since they do not wish to make the game

unplayable when they have the goods only when the opps do:))). The bidding has seen to it we cannot keep the

opps from making game if they have the goods. The only question is just how far do you wish to pursue the

relatively small number of IMPS you gain from 4sx vs the times you get hammered big time or just turn a postive

into a negative because your rho misjudged game prospects:))))))))))))) talk it over with your partner and good luck.

I would pass:)
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Posted 2014-February-11, 17:08

I lead a spade. Happy to have such a stand out lead vs 3N.
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Posted 2014-February-11, 17:31

Bidding now on a 10 loser hand makes no sense to me. When you can make or come close to making 4, you probably won't play there because partner will make a slam try and be very disappointed to see your hand.
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Posted 2014-February-11, 17:44

Clear pass at MP, much less at imps; the tops you get for -300 vs. -400 are so much less likely than going for too much or taking a phantom. At imps risk/reward is far worse.
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Posted 2014-February-11, 18:39

View PostMickyB, on 2014-February-11, 13:36, said:

Q98xx jxx jxx xx

Love all imps

P-3C-X-3N
??


Is it 1st of April already?
"The King of Hearts a broadsword bears, the Queen of Hearts a rose." W. H. Auden.
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Posted 2014-February-12, 05:59

View Postthe hog, on 2014-February-11, 18:39, said:

Is it 1st of April already?


Indeed, I mean it half feels like it's being asked because of a ruling but I couldn't see how that would come into being...
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Posted 2014-February-12, 06:14

Had to double-check that I'd read "love all" correctly. I'm so so far from bidding.
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Posted 2014-February-12, 10:15

What would Redouble instead of 3NT mean for these opponents?
Or 3D,3H,3S forcing? Maybe wrench into the gears?
3NT maybe wrench into our gears?
Any answer gets passed to partner.
Just so I know what they're doing I ask just as if I were intending to bid.
(Always asking is my ethics plan. Give nothing away by the ask is intended)
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Posted 2014-February-12, 12:23

Pass.

Wouldn't be surprised if a H lead works better than a S though.
The "4 is a transfer to 4" award goes to Jinksy - PhilKing
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