Vugraph schedule Comprehensive coverage in February
#1
Posted 2005-January-31, 06:56
http://www.bridgebas.../online/vg.html
Broadcasts from 7 nations of which 2 are brand new: Russia and Iceland. We hope you appreciate the efforts we put into this. There is a mountain to climb before it becomes perfect (if ever), but we won't stop trying.
Constructive suggestions are always welcome. Fred and I promise to consider any constribution you can offer in order to make our presentations even more successful.
Roland Wald
Vugraph Coordinator
#2
Posted 2005-January-31, 07:01
Let me explain: push button if you want to hear/stop hear other kibitzers comments, and make comments of your own.
Or is this already implemented?
#3
Posted 2005-January-31, 07:42
whereagles, on Jan 31 2005, 08:01 AM, said:
Let me explain: push button if you want to hear/stop hear other kibitzers comments, and make comments of your own.
Or is this already implemented?
No, a kibitzer can't chat to the room or to fellow kibitzers except for private chat messages. Whether that is on Fred's list of improvements I don't know. We will probably hear from him within long.
Personally I don't think it's a good idea. The screen will be cluttered with messages, and spectators who are interested in following the comments by the commentators will get a hard time. An on/off button may be an option, however. That will be up to Fred and Uday to decide.
Roland
#4
Posted 2005-January-31, 07:51
For this reason, my personal preference if for two or at most three commentators. It is not that I think with more the quality goes down from a technical side..it is just that if there is a lot of typing, I find it better to ignore all of it and study the hand rather than try to decipher what the heck is being said in the different "converstations" going on at once.
I know others disagree and think the more the merrier, but my experience, again, is two to three commentors are sooooooo much easier to follow. Let everyone talk? No, never.
Ben
#5
Posted 2005-January-31, 08:01
inquiry, on Jan 31 2005, 08:51 AM, said:
For this reason, my personal preference if for two or at most three commentators. It is not that I think with more the quality goes down from a technical side..it is just that if there is a lot of typing, I find it better to ignore all of it and study the hand rather than try to decipher what the heck is being said in the different "converstations" going on at once.
I know others disagree and think the more the merrier, but my experience, again, is two to three commentors are sooooooo much easier to follow. Let everyone talk? No, never.
Ben
In another thread I wrote that 3-4 commentators at a time would be ideal. Less will be boring, and more than 4 often chaotic. We are not far from agreeing Ben, but I still claim that two will be at least one too few - simply because it will put too much pressure on the two commentators.
They will have to type almost constantly, and no one can do that for a session of say 16 boards.
Roland
#6
Posted 2005-January-31, 08:09
Ben
#7
Posted 2005-January-31, 08:28
Just an idea. Perhaps some of it actually makes sense
#8
Posted 2005-January-31, 08:50
I know it was already mentioned some time go.
All I can say is that I had the chance to watch the online live broadcast of the great CORUS chess supertourney (Wjik An Zee- Netherlands), with the aid of multiple channels (on the FICS - Free Internet Chess Server), and that was a great fun for everybody !
#9
Posted 2005-January-31, 14:43
At first we had no commentators which made the match a bit dry, then (I believe) the organisor enabled kibbitzer chat and nothing short of mayhem ensued. Every man and his dog felt compelled to make trivial jokes and comments, of which less than 1% were either funny or relevant.
Sanity was re-installed after the participants crashed and re-opened a new table where only roland and ben, being yellows, could commentate.
As for the optimal number of commentators, I've worked at tables solo (a lot of work...not unlike talking to yourself) and also with between 2-5 other commentators. I'd say 3-4 is best but you always get your quiet ones and then those who talk too much which compensates. It's very hard to follow commentary when two pairs of commentators are having separate conversations or anlaysis. You can't really tell which comment someone is replying to.
nickf
sydney
#10
Posted 2005-February-01, 04:45
nickf, on Jan 31 2005, 03:43 PM, said:
nickf
sydney
Quite right Nick. If I have a choice, I try to take that into consideration when I schedule commentators for our broadcasts. Some talk all the time and others don't talk much. That's why it's so difficult to determine the "right" number of commentators.
3-4 is the closest we can get to the truth I think. I'd love to please everybody in this regard, but after 2 years in my position as the coordinator I have realised that there is no such thing as perfection.
To those who think there is: dream on. The world isn't perfect, is it?
Roland