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Friends can we have 2 types of friends?

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Posted 2005-January-26, 20:50

I would like to distinguish between two types of friends. Some possible terms for these two types are in brackets.

1) Those I want to partner (Friends, Partners, ...)
2) Those I want to Kibitz (Top players, Kibitz these, Good, Watch, Kibitz, ...)

I find my preferred partners keep getting lost in the long list of top players I like to kibitz.

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Posted 2005-January-27, 01:55

That means another colour needs to be added to distinguish different types of friends :)
Not such a bad idea imo... :)) i like it

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Posted 2005-January-27, 02:50

I agree, the little trick I use is to mark such players as enemies!

I also mark people who I occasionally play with as such too so they don't pop up everytime they log in but very regular ptr's do!

I don't have any enemies hehehe ( I hope) but you can use the filters to display friends,enemies & world class.

It would be great to have an 'acquaintance' option!

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Posted 2005-January-27, 05:23

well i want to take this a bit further and propose 6 types of friends based on the characters frrm the Friends series.....

Sorry hee hee [u:] got a meeting will finish it later .... some nice ideas though :)
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Posted 2005-January-27, 07:31

good idea!
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Posted 2005-January-27, 07:46

We already get a lot of complaints that BBO has too many colors and lots of questions about what these colors mean. As such, I am not exactly eager to add another one (or several other ones as some people suggest).

How about using the player notes facility to clarify the nature of your relationship with other BBO members?

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Posted 2005-January-27, 09:31

Maybe if there were several colors that a user could define - players that I like to kib; acquaintances, friends, enemies (yep got a few of those too).
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Posted 2005-January-27, 11:00

You have 6 types of friends sloffy?
Can't wait to read your post after you finish your ohhhh so long meeting <_<

What i have done, is fill out the notes facility(as mentioned by Fred)... it comes in very handy, as one can jot down a lot of information about a "PINK"....

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Posted 2005-January-27, 11:14

fred, on Jan 27 2005, 02:46 PM, said:

We already get a lot of complaints that BBO has too many colors and lots of questions about what these colors mean. As such, I am not exactly eager to add another one (or several other ones as some people suggest).

How about using the player notes facility to clarify the nature of your relationship with other BBO members?

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I guess the problem isn't to recognize people, but to find them fast enough. If you want to kibitz some match, it would be usefull to have a friends list you like to kibitz, and not everyone all together.

Having more than 2 sorts of friends is overkill imo. There are only 2 main things you do in BBO: play and kibitz (and a little chat perhaps).

So how many colors do we have at this moment? Purple, yellow, black and normal right? Is it really that confusing for some people?? <_<
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Posted 2005-January-27, 11:33

Yes, more colors is that confusing for many people. This seems like the classic normal versus power user debate. My solution to this would be add a small button to the options page to enable advanced options. You then leave everything nice and simple by default and let those who can deal with the extra complexity have the extra functionality they want.

I wouldn't mind being able to classify players into arbitrary categories
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Posted 2005-January-27, 16:10

Maybe make it all adjustable by users? so u can make groups urself, and mark each group (optional) with a color?
For directors this would be an aid 2, to have a list of people to refuse;)
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Posted 2005-January-27, 18:21

emelnl, on Jan 27 2005, 04:10 PM, said:

Maybe make it all adjustable by users? so u can make groups urself, and mark each group (optional) with a color?
For directors this would be an aid 2, to have a list of people to refuse;)

yes :)
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Posted 2005-January-28, 05:52

bestguru, on Jan 28 2005, 06:33 AM, said:

Yes, more colors is that confusing for many people.  This seems like the classic normal versus power user debate.  My solution to this would be add a small button to the options page to enable advanced options.  You then leave everything nice and simple by default and let those who can deal with the extra complexity have the extra functionality they want.

I wouldn't mind being able to classify players into arbitrary categories

Although I can see that making this type of option availabe might cause Uday (and any other programmers on BBO) big headaches I too agree that being able to sort into MY personal catagories would be a good a option would for me :)

BUT I don't have any problems with LOTS of colours coming up for folk's names {and( to push a favorite barrow ) nor would I have a problem if directions were to show up on the "table" part of the playing surface :)- }
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Posted 2005-January-28, 07:26

It is right we don't need more color, but it would be nice to be able to annotate friends and enemies, in a way that is searchable and that the software can react to it.
I don't think that this is "urgent", it's more a "would be nice" feature.

If the dialog where i make someone as friend had a second box of radio buttons, where i could define:
  • Alert me if my friend comes online
  • Is allowed to play in my tourneys
  • Someone i like to kib

This way, i won't have to turn of the friends alert bubble (because most of my "friends" are there for tourney reasons.), because only the true friedns would cause an alert. And a lobby filter, could be implemented that one could chance as needed.

Same would be about enemies
  • exclude from further contact
  • disallow in my tourneys
  • cheating suspect (thats perhaps not a good idea)

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Posted 2005-January-30, 13:45

Sorry my meeting was one of those interminable ones where the short outcomes were inversely proportional to the length of thime spent discussing them....(a bit like my bidding sequences)

OK i proposed that BBO users should have 6 types of friends, all represented by the main characters in the comedy series FRIENDS and to be visualised in different colours. It assumes that any person with even a cursory finger on the pulse of modern entertainment understands at least superficially the characters of Friends.

Personally, i think Fred should take this proposal very seriously:-


ROSS FRIEND: The 'serious' type. Plays every hand to make it and seeks to find an esoteric play on EVERY hand, and informs all your RACHEL FRIENDS of it when he succeeds. Views his bridge paleontologically in the sense he uses conventions Ely Culbertson perceived as modern. The older an opponent is, the more interest he takes in him/her from an academic perspective. Very jealous of all your RACHEL FRIENDS and overprotective of your MONICA FRIENDS.

MONICA FRIEND: Very organised bidder. All cards are placed on the table in a structured and methodical way and aligned perfectly with one another. Refuses to play with you again if suits are not separated by colour in dummy. Tempo is very important to her and she has a stop-watch with her at every round of bidding to ensure that all bids are made in tempo. You notice she always plays with older men with hairy chests and lip-swarming moustaches. Keeps fluttering her eye-lashes at all your CHANDLER FRIENDS.

JOEY FRIEND: Sees the bridge table as a pulling-shop. Greets all female opposition who come to his table with the phrase "Howu doooin'? " and a flash of his teeth. Annoys his partner when he plays the Jack of Diamonds on his Jack of Clubs and pulls the cards towards him triumphantly as he gleefully shouts 'SNAP!!'. Measures the success of a bridge session by the number of women he has managed to pass on his cell-phone number to. Keeps dropping his cards on the floor when a women with a short skirt comes to opp at his table.

PHOEBE FRIEND: Explains, when she goes off in ice-cold No Trump Game, that Jupiter is not aligned with Saturn or that Venus not in same astrological segment as Pluto. Makes a lot of (other) friends by promising to be a surrogate mother to any future children they may wish to have. When dummy. starts singing and strumming her guitar hoping it will deflect attention from her totally incomprehensible auction which propelled you into a non-making game. Finds competitive bridge disrupts her karma.

CHANDLER FRIEND: Very jealous of your ROSS FRIENDS and JOEY FRIENDS. Scurries from one table to another to see which of them is kibbing who and writes them down to use against them sometime in the future. Bids No Trumps at the earliest opportunity whatever his shape to ensure he selfishly plays the hand. Gets paranoid every time an opp asks him if he wished he had a queen in his hand and whether the opp was referring to his father. Always tries to squeeze MONICA FRIENDS if he thinks ROSS FRIENDS aren't watching.

RACHEL FRIEND: She's the one who changes her hair-style more often than her CC. The most important board in a team match is an Emery Board. Doesn't believe any bid a ROSS FRIEND makes and sees it as a preemptive strike to secure a 'contract' that is unmakeable. Dresses according to a convention card. Will only play with her MONICA FRIENDS and any other arrangement is seen as an acute betrayal. Discards at will, and always throws away those cards that are most valubale to her. Excuses herself form the table when BPitt logs on. Any person with Angelina in their nik is immediately put in her enemy list
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I hope Fred takes this proposal seriously.

Alex
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Posted 2005-January-30, 14:27

slothy, on Jan 30 2005, 07:45 PM, said:

Sorry my meeting was one of those interminable ones where the short outcomes were inversely proportional to the length of thime spent discussing them....(a bit like my bidding sequences)

OK i proposed that BBO users should have 6 types of friends, all represented by the main characters in the comedy series FRIENDS and to be visualised in different colours. It assumes that any person with even a cursory finger on the pulse of modern entertainment understands at least superficially the characters of Friends.

Personally, i think Fred should take this proposal very seriously:-


ROSS FRIEND: The 'serious' type. Plays every hand to make it and seeks to find an esoteric play on EVERY hand, and informs all your RACHEL FRIENDS of it when he succeeds. Views his bridge paleontologically in the sense he uses conventions Ely Culbertson perceived as modern. The older an opponent is, the more interest he takes in him/her from an academic perspective. Very jealous of all your RACHEL FRIENDS and overprotective of your MONICA FRIENDS.

MONICA FRIEND: Very organised bidder. All cards are placed on the table in a structured and methodical way and aligned perfectly with one another. Refuses to play with you again if suits are not separated by colour in dummy. Tempo is very important to her and she has a stop-watch with her at every round of bidding to ensure that all bids are made in tempo. You notice she always plays with older men with hairy chests and lip-swarming moustaches. Keeps fluttering her eye-lashes at all your CHANDLER FRIENDS.

JOEY FRIEND: Sees the bridge table as a pulling-shop. Greets all female opposition who come to his table with the phrase "Howu doooin'? " and a flash of his teeth. Annoys his partner when he plays the Jack of Diamonds on his Jack of Clubs and pulls the cards towards him triumphantly as he gleefully shouts 'SNAP!!'. Measures the success of a bridge session by the number of women he has managed to pass on his cell-phone number to. Keeps dropping his cards on the floor when a women with a short skirt comes to opp at his table.

PHOEBE FRIEND: Explains, when she goes off in ice-cold No Trump Game, that Jupiter is not aligned with Saturn or that Venus not in same astrological segment as Pluto. Makes a lot of (other) friends by promising to be a surrogate mother to any future children they may wish to have. When dummy. starts singing and strumming her guitar hoping it will deflect attention from her totally incomprehensible auction which propelled you into a non-making game. Finds competitive bridge disrupts her karma.

CHANDLER FRIEND: Very jealous of your ROSS FRIENDS and JOEY FRIENDS. Scurries from one table to another to see which of them is kibbing who and writes them down to use against them sometime in the future. Bids No Trumps at the earliest opportunity whatever his shape to ensure he selfishly plays the hand. Gets paranoid every time an opp asks him if he wished he had a queen in his hand and whether the opp was referring to his father. Always tries to squeeze MONICA FRIENDS if he thinks ROSS FRIENDS aren't watching.

RACHEL FRIEND: She's the one who changes her hair-style more often than her CC. The most important board in a team match is an Emery Board. Doesn't believe any bid a ROSS FRIEND makes and sees it as a preemptive strike to secure a 'contract' that is unmakeable. Dresses according to a convention card. Will only play with her MONICA FRIENDS and any other arrangement is seen as an acute betrayal. Discards at will, and always throws away those cards that are most valubale to her. Excuses herself form the table when BPitt logs on. Any person with Angelina in their nik is immediately put in her enemy list
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I hope Fred takes this proposal seriously.

Alex

First time I have ever LOLed after reading a forums post.

Thanks Slothy!

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Posted 2005-January-30, 14:32

oh great, that's just what he needed... humoring
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Posted 2005-January-31, 04:41

fred, on Jan 30 2005, 03:29 PM, said:

First time I have ever LOLed after reading a forums post.

Thanks Slothy!

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You mean I never made you LOL before? Gotta look at the 'ingredients' of this post to see what makes it so definitive...

Gotta talk to Sheri about this...

Anyway, nice to know i made you LOL, must be a nice change from all those people giving you grief (u know Luke warm, spwdo, Ron and verbal hoodlums like that :lol: [if any of the 3 niks take offence at this: i achieved my goal] )

supercilious bugger who just posted, on Jan 30 2005, said:

oh great, that's just what he needed... humoring


Anyone remotedly interested, i have - reluctantly as it happens and against the advice of my 'social coach' - Luke warm as a 'friend' but every time he posts (in response to my post) his colour goes a lighter shade of purple to a darker shade of black..... :P

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Posted 2005-January-31, 09:07

frederick aka free, on 27 jan, said:

So how many colors do we have at this moment? Purple, yellow, black and normal right?


Your purple is my pink, (they say men are colour blind) :ph34r:, i got yellow, so far no black :( , but I don't have normal... :) what is that? Don't you see it as Blue? :huh:

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Posted 2005-January-31, 09:13

I am trying to figure out which FRIEND you would be Alex
Joey comes to mind.... :huh:

Monica :ph34r:
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