[flytoox]

whereagles, on Jan 26 2005, 03:51 PM, said:

Well... actually 4S makes: spades are 2-2 and the jack of hearts is onside.

But I'm happy to see we all agree not to be in it... lol. I held the spade hand and indeed didn't bid it.

I think you need more self-confidence:)

[arrows]

Really? Am I reading this correct?
2♣ over double could be this kind of hand?

MHO, the responder should have bid redouble, 1NT or even pass, or
yet even 2♦, rather than 2♣.

2 level new suit is not constructive over double, it's a runout bid.

[pclayton]

arrows, on Jan 26 2005, 05:44 PM, said:

Really? Am I reading this correct?
2♣ over double could be this kind of hand?

MHO, the responder should have bid redouble, 1NT or even pass, or
yet even 2♦, rather than 2♣.

2 level new suit is not constructive over double, it's a runout bid.

Arrows:

2♣ is a transfer advance showing diamonds. Its a great way to play, since you can signoff in diamonds, show a diamond suit with support, show a 2 suiter with diamonds + another.

[arrows]

I see, hehe, didn't notice it's artificial

then seems to me the responder has yet to show invitation,
2NT or 3♠.

[mila85]

Free, on Jan 26 2005, 06:13 PM, said:

mila85, on Jan 26 2005, 04:57 PM, said:

I open 4s.
(if I don't know that 4s makes open it too:) )

Opening 4♠ is suicide. On this hand it might work, but in the long run, you'll lose bigtime!

You don't get similar hands very often and after 4s opening you can make a very good score or a very bad score. It's very difficult to speak about results in long run...

I have one good reason to open 4s - expert opps. It's not probable that I will make a good result with "normal" bidding.

[whereagles]

I consider it borderline between 1S and 4S. My style is actually to open 4S and leave opps to guess, but the weakish spade spots led me to open 1S