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Poll: awkward lead (17 member(s) have cast votes)

what do you lead?

  1. Ace of spades (1 votes [5.88%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.88%

  2. Queen of spades (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. 10 of spades (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. King of hearts (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. Jack of hearts (3 votes [17.65%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.65%

  6. Ace of diamonds (7 votes [41.18%])

    Percentage of vote: 41.18%

  7. low diamond (1 votes [5.88%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.88%

  8. Jack of clubs (5 votes [29.41%])

    Percentage of vote: 29.41%

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#1 User is offline   Fluffy 

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Posted 2013-September-25, 08:06




Opponents are known for their aggressiveness.
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Posted 2013-September-25, 11:20

club J

I must admit i do not see anything awkward about this lead. It offers
us several chances for for good defensive prospects and it is by far
the least risky. Our control of the trump suit makes it tough for the
opps to run clubs w/o giving us 3 trump tricks and we can always
save tackling hearts or diamonds for later after we see the dummy.
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Posted 2013-September-25, 11:55

Any lead I make could blow a trick, but the club lead looks to me like a terrible choice. If the opps hold a side fit, it is likely clubs, and the J could easily be fatal, especially since we are defending on a hand on which trump split well for them.

While partner's redouble probably didn't promise the diamond K, it seems to me that when placing cards in his hand, the diamond K is the one we can most reliably expect...not only did he raise the suit, but he redoubled. So I lead the diamond Ace, and think it pretty clear to do so, while recognizing that it, as with any other card I could choose, may blow up on me.
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Posted 2013-September-25, 12:56

View Postmikeh, on 2013-September-25, 11:55, said:

While partner's redouble probably didn't promise the diamond K, it seems to me that when placing cards in his hand, the diamond K is the one we can most reliably expect...not only did he raise the suit, but he redoubled.


I don't have a quarrel with A but was surprised by the inference you draw from redouble.. to me the redouble sounds like a good hand (in context) with defensive values outside the diamond suit. It sounds like he wants to penalize them rather than compete in diamonds. Is that totally wrong?
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Posted 2013-September-25, 18:20

redouble is looking for penalties no doubt. Partner will be mostly balanced and maximum, he also doesn't have the 'bad cards' QJ, but we knew that already.K is also not a very good value since dummy simply cannot have more than 1 diamond.
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Posted 2013-September-26, 03:09

LHO's bidding is odd. What sort of hand can't act over 1 or 2 (which was non-forcing, presumably), but does want to compete over 3?

I'm not convinced about my bidding either. I might have bid 3NT instead of passing 3. On the next round, I knew that partner was maximum, K was probably onside, and we might well get a spade lead. 3NT seems more attractive than doubling 3 and then wondering what to lead, and if it made it would teach LHO a sharp lesson.

I voted for A, to get a look at dummy and a suit-preference signal, and because it's quite likely that we should be cutting down dummy's ruffs. However, there are arguments for all four suits: a heart because partner probably has an honour there and we need some heart tricks before the clubs get going; a diamond because it may be right to force dummy to set up my spade tricks; a club so that I can score my 10 by ruffing a loser.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2013-September-26, 09:08

View PostFluffy, on 2013-September-25, 08:06, said:


Opponents are known for their aggressiveness.
Not just to be different J = 10, A = 9, J = 8, A = 7
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Posted 2013-September-26, 18:21

IMO A = 10, J = 9, J = 9, A = 5, = 3
I like every non-trump lead.
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Posted 2013-September-26, 23:01

the rating guys gave a 0 for my low diamonds try lol.

BTW I made a mistake on the hand, hope it didn't change much, but it will explain why I didn't bid 3NT.


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Posted 2013-September-26, 23:44

I am definitely leading the DA. I agree that a C lead is terrible.
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Posted 2013-September-28, 01:59

I'm also a A leader. With partner supporting s, you're unlikely to get more than 1 trick. Leading a may result in ruffing with trump winners you'd get anyway. Leading from the other tenaced suits has more risk of giving the opponents a trick.

Sure, the A lead may give the opponents a trick too. However, looking at dummy may provide a clue toward the killing continuation or allow partner to show a suit preference.
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