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1D-1S-2H artificial spade raise Any of you play this? What are your followups?

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Posted 2013-September-07, 14:11

1D-1S-2H promises shortness somewhere & either a 3-card raise 14-15, or 4-card raise 12-13.

Any of you play this method? What are the followups? Do you have a gadget for these hands after 1D-1H?

This is in a precision system with a 14-16 NT, could be few as 2 one diamond opener, we open all 11's and rule of 20 hands. 1D-1M-2NT is a max 14-15 either 4-card support for M and shortness or 3-card support for the M and a 6-card diamond suit. 3C untangles with 3D showing six and 3H low shortness and 3S high shortness. 1D-1M-2M-2NT asks about strength and support. Anserws are in steps. min 3, max 3, min 4, max 4.
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Posted 2013-September-07, 15:05

We play that 2H shows all hands with 4 card support. Over this responder bids 2sp to play versus an 11-13 hand. Over this sign off opener continues with all 14-15 hands, so responder's direct invites are invites against the 11-13 range.

The direct raises 1D - 1S - 2S, and 1D - 1S - 2NT are unbalanced three card raises, min and max respectively.

This is after a 1D opener that is either balanced or unbalanced with a four card major, but if you have another way of showing diamonds and hearts it seems to work in your case as well. A nice thing is that 3-card and 4-card raises are distinguished.
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Posted 2013-September-07, 15:16

Sam and I play a similar method, but I suspect our 1 opening shows a different set of hands from yours. We use:

1 - 1:
... 2 = 4 and singleton somewhere, 11-13 or 3 and singleton somewhere 14-15
... 2NT = 4 and void somewhere
... 3 = 4 and singleton heart, 14-15
... 3 = 4 and singleton diamond, 14-15
... 3 = 4 and singleton club, 14-15

1 - 1 - 2:
... 2 = to play
... 2N = relay:
........ 3 = 3-card raise 14-15, effectively GF and 3 asks shortage
........ 3 = 4 and singleton heart, 11-13
........ 3 = 4 and singleton diamond, 11-13
........ 3 = 4 and singleton club, 11-13
... 3m = natural and GF, often minor longer than spades

1 - 1:
... 2 = 4 and singleton somewhere, 11-13, or 3 and singleton spade 14-15
... 2 = 4 and void somewhere
... 2N = 4 and singleton spade, 14-15
... 3 = 4 and singleton diamond, 14-15
... 3 = 4 and singleton club, 14-15

1 - 1 - 2:
... 2 = to play
... 2 = relay:
....... 2N = 4 and singleton spade, 11-13
....... 3 = 3 and singleton spade, 14-15
....... 3 = 4 and singleton diamond, 11-13
....... 3 = 4 and singleton club, 11-13
... 2N = GF with 4
... 3m = GF natural, often longer minor than hearts

As may be clear from the above, our 1 opening includes hands with 0-1 diamond (i.e. 4414, 4315, 4405) but does not include hands with a long diamond suit (3163, 2263, etc open 2 natural intermediate). This makes things a lot easier for us in these auctions, and we believe our 2 opening is quite effective and more frequent than the "precision 2" opening. Of course, this probably doesn't answer your original question...
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Posted 2013-September-08, 01:29

... and with that last post, I have now found a reason to spend half the night reading over a summary of IMprecision, and seeing why it has been so highly praised recently. :)
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Posted 2013-September-08, 04:03

View Postawm, on 2013-September-07, 15:16, said:

Sam and I play a similar method, but I suspect our 1 opening shows a different set of hands from yours. We use:

1 - 1:
... 2 = 4 and singleton somewhere, 11-13 or 3 and singleton somewhere 14-15

1 - 1 - 2:
... 2 = to play
... 2N = relay:
........ 3 = 3-card raise 14-15, effectively GF and 3 asks shortage
........ 3 = 4 and singleton heart, 14-15
........ 3 = 4 and singleton diamond, 14-15
........ 3 = 4 and singleton club, 14-15
... 3m = natural and GF, often minor longer than spades

Found a little copy-paste error :P
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