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#1 User is offline   Zloty 

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Posted 2013-September-01, 03:44

Hello,

South plays 4 west leads trump


http://cjoint.com/?CIblOW4Ks7B

Any solution?

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Posted 2013-September-01, 04:15

I haven't double dummied it, but it looks like it's to do with East being able to rise with a heart only twice (the reason I solved it quickly was by examining the title of the hand - you have to break the heart communication).

Basically, you set about a non-material dummy reversal (you do not have enough entries to complete it). Whenever East rises with a heart honour, you ruff, but if he plays low you duck, so the play might go:

1 Win the A
2 A
3 heart - East rises with the king so you ruff high
4 to dummy
5 heart - East plays low and you pitch a diamond
6 spade by West, won on table
7 ruff a heart
8 ace
9

Now West can cash his long spade, but you just throw a club and claim. If he exits a club without cashing the spade, you play your winning diamond.
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Posted 2013-September-01, 04:46

View PostPhilKing, on 2013-September-01, 04:15, said:

I haven't double dummied it, but it looks like it's to do with East being able to rise with a heart only twice (the reason I solved it quickly was by examining the title of the hand - you have to break the heart communication).

Basically, you set about a non-material dummy reversal (you do not have enough entries to complete it). Whenever East rises with a heart honour, you ruff, but if he plays low you duck, so the play might go:

1 Win the A
2 A
3 heart - East rises with the king so you ruff high
4 to dummy
5 heart - East plays low and you pitch a diamond
6 spade by West, won on table
7 ruff a heart
8 ace
9

Yes very well played.

Zloty

Now West can cash his long spade, but you just throw a club and claim. If he exits a club without cashing the spade, you play your winning diamond.

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Posted 2013-September-01, 08:28

View PostPhilKing, on 2013-September-01, 04:15, said:

I haven't double dummied it, but it looks like it's to do with East being able to rise with a heart only twice (the reason I solved it quickly was by examining the title of the hand - you have to break the heart communication).

Basically, you set about a non-material dummy reversal (you do not have enough entries to complete it). Whenever East rises with a heart honour, you ruff, but if he plays low you duck, so the play might go:

1 Win the A
2 A
3 heart - East rises with the king so you ruff high
4 to dummy
5 heart - East plays low and you pitch a diamond
6 spade by West, won on table
7 ruff a heart
8 ace
9

Now West can cash his long spade, but you just throw a club and claim. If he exits a club without cashing the spade, you play your winning diamond.
Good stuff, PhilKing! A simlilar dummy-reversal, elimination, and avoidance theme to the other Commander Pawle Problem that Zloty posted
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Posted 2013-September-01, 09:56

View Postnige1, on 2013-September-01, 08:28, said:

Good stuff, PhilKing! A simlilar dummy-reversal, elimination, and avoidance theme to the other Commander Pawle Problem that Zloty posted


Yeah, it's the same technique. I guess it should have a proper name - how about partial avoidance?
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Posted 2013-September-02, 01:12

View PostPhilKing, on 2013-September-01, 09:56, said:

Yeah, it's the same technique. I guess it should have a proper name - how about partial avoidance?


The proper name is already given before as "and eating it"
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Posted 2013-September-02, 03:39

View PostZloty, on 2013-September-02, 01:12, said:

The proper name is already given before as "and eating it"


That gave me indigestion.
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Posted 2013-September-02, 10:19

I'm totally ok to adopt "partial avoidance", provided that the chinese cook agrees."And eating it" is already on BBO.

http://cjoint.com/?CIcstgxj3JD
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Posted 2013-September-09, 03:16

View PostPhilKing, on 2013-September-01, 04:15, said:

I haven't double dummied it, but it looks like it's to do with East being able to rise with a heart only twice (the reason I solved it quickly was by examining the title of the hand - you have to break the heart communication).

Basically, you set about a non-material dummy reversal (you do not have enough entries to complete it). Whenever East rises with a heart honour, you ruff, but if he plays low you duck, so the play might go:

1 Win the A
2 A
3 heart - East rises with the king so you ruff high
4 to dummy
5 heart - East plays low and you pitch a diamond
6 spade by West, won on table
7 ruff a heart
8 ace
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Now West can cash his long spade, but you just throw a club and claim. If he exits a club without cashing the spade, you play your winning diamond.


Re,

Point 6. instead of spade by west if he plays another card (for example J ?
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