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#1 User is offline   DrTodd13 

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Posted 2005-January-07, 17:03

1 by RHO showing 9-13, 4+, 0+
1 by LHO showing artificial, less than invitational hand
4 by RHO.

Your lead from:


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Posted 2005-January-07, 18:16

A of D

RHO has 9-13 HCP and very long hearts?
LHO has a weak hand?
Partner cannot overcall 1D or X for lead?
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Posted 2005-January-07, 18:41

i'd lead A also, if only to get a look at dummy and get a signal from partner
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Posted 2005-January-07, 18:54

I am usually conservative on leading (from) Ace. HJ would be my choice.
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Posted 2005-January-07, 18:55

I'd ask the LHO for a better definition of waht his bid meant. (or ask RHO what LHOs bid meant to him).

Worst lead is underleading the A.
Leading an unsupported Ace doesn't sound like a good lead to me.

I can't tell what the opps estimated HCP holding is. Around 22? We have 18? Pard has close to 10 HCP, didnt overcall. Perhaps he has Clubs or Diiamonds, but not enough.

I'd lead a low .
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Posted 2005-January-07, 19:03

Difficult to make a reasonable decision without understanding our defensive methods over 1. For example what would double show?

Clubs?
A balanced hand with values?
Takeout of Hearts?

I need a damn good reason to lead (or underlead) an Ace.
A Club also seems problematic... Hate to find partner with Qxx or Qx.

A Heart could be good. Might kill a ruff in dummy.
Spades are somewhat tempting, however, I suspect that partner would have shown a decent Spade suit.

Mark me down for a Heart...
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Posted 2005-January-07, 19:45

Strange auction; sounds like RHO has a whole of of hearts and a max. Pard can't come in over 1. RHO also doesn't have a good side suit; I don't know moscito or the other transfer openings but it'd be nice to know what 2 and 3 rebids mean.

A is the last card I'd lead. A heart is safe, but I'm not sure I want to be safe.

For some reason the J seems to want to jump out of my hand. If I lead a heart I'm leading the 10.
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Posted 2005-January-07, 21:02

i'd still lead the A on this auction, tho a heart is probably better
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Posted 2005-January-07, 22:19

Could the 1d bidder hold 4-5 spades ?
If he could i will lead my A of diamond, if not ill lead the J of hearts.
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Posted 2005-January-08, 06:36

lead, I don't think I should change my leads from a 1-4 auction.
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Posted 2005-January-08, 10:10

This is not a 1h -4h auction.

RHO must be very long in H or making very poor bid since:
LHO can be void in H
LHO can be long in any suit, note this was not denied in explanation otherwise not full disclosure.
RHO has not bid 2 or 3H.

Best guess is partner is around 4234, 4135, 3235 with approx. 10 HCP.
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Posted 2005-January-08, 10:43

Lead C. Pd didnt overcall 1S.
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Posted 2005-January-08, 10:45

curious why you would want to lead A diamonds, LHO D bid is denial I assume does not promise and strength in D, so leading A diamond may win one trick but make two if RHO had K, so why lead it?
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Posted 2005-January-08, 10:52

sceptic, on Jan 8 2005, 10:45 AM, said:

curious why you would want to lead A diamonds, LHO  D bid is denial I assume does not promise and strength in D, so leading A diamond may win one trick but make two if RHO had K, so why lead it?

my reasons for leading it i stated above... might not be best reasons, but they're the only ones i have :)

i want to get a look at dummy and i want to get a signal from partner... my guess is, he has some strength and he can't double, he has decent diamonds and a (perhaps) finesseable spade or two...
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Posted 2005-January-08, 10:55

luke warm, on Jan 8 2005, 04:52 PM, said:

i want to get a look at dummy and i want to get a signal from partner

Not sure this is necessary. There is no strong message that declarer or dummy has a suit for discard.
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Posted 2005-January-08, 10:59

if i got a look at dummy's obvious shift suit and partner's signal, i'd know more... i'd at least know whether to continue diamonds or shift to o.s.... by inference i could tell something about the other suit

sure, leading the A could be wrong... but with my holding, a spade is the last thing i'd lead
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Posted 2005-January-08, 12:56

i really have problems understanding this auction but ill lead a


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Posted 2005-January-08, 17:07

2nd highest S. Todd is not 1D usually an invitational relay rather than a weak bid over 1C? We played 1H = gfr 1D = about 9-13 art.
Regardless, 2nd highest S for me.
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Posted 2005-January-09, 01:56

In our system, after 1, any bid by responder 1 and higher is less than invitational. 1-1 is all invite+ hands and 1-1 are less than invitational hands that don't have their own suit or want to check back for 5 with opener.

1-1-2/3/4 are all various preempts. Responder could be very weak with 0 hearts so the higher the heart level the more hearts are required.

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Posted 2005-January-09, 11:12

Perhaps I did not understand the answer.

We cannot lead A of D and then Q of D?

Since dummy cannot have an invite hand in spades, opener has not denied spades and 13 HCP, dummy cannot be as good as:

KXXX=X=KXX=AXXXX
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